1 00:00:04,070 --> 00:00:01,910 and good evening everyone welcome to 2 00:00:05,510 --> 00:00:04,080 arcane radio i'm sean the fort chop 3 00:00:06,070 --> 00:00:05,520 forker joining you tonight on this 4 00:00:09,830 --> 00:00:06,080 special 5 00:00:11,270 --> 00:00:09,840 saturday night edition of the show 6 00:00:13,430 --> 00:00:11,280 tonight we're going to be talking about 7 00:00:16,070 --> 00:00:13,440 horrifying bigfoot encounters scary 8 00:00:17,830 --> 00:00:16,080 bigfoot tales to give you goosebumps 9 00:00:19,189 --> 00:00:17,840 and i think it's going to be a fun show 10 00:00:20,630 --> 00:00:19,199 something a little lighter than what 11 00:00:22,470 --> 00:00:20,640 we've been talking about but before we 12 00:00:24,710 --> 00:00:22,480 get into all that 13 00:00:26,070 --> 00:00:24,720 i'm joined as always by the every man 14 00:00:28,230 --> 00:00:26,080 over at phantoms and monsters the 15 00:00:29,109 --> 00:00:28,240 editor-in-chief the grand poobah lon 16 00:00:31,669 --> 00:00:29,119 strickler 17 00:00:33,750 --> 00:00:31,679 and mr butch watkowski guys welcome to 18 00:00:36,549 --> 00:00:33,760 the show tonight 19 00:00:37,910 --> 00:00:36,559 good evening sir well you got your [\h__\h] 20 00:00:40,310 --> 00:00:37,920 together tonight anyway 21 00:00:41,350 --> 00:00:40,320 oh i'm telling you what we got uh 22 00:00:43,190 --> 00:00:41,360 everything firing off 23 00:00:44,389 --> 00:00:43,200 you know all this traveling i've been 24 00:00:47,350 --> 00:00:44,399 doing for work and 25 00:00:49,029 --> 00:00:47,360 last night for personal pleasures uh 26 00:00:50,630 --> 00:00:49,039 these updates catch up to you 27 00:00:53,189 --> 00:00:50,640 and there's nothing worse than getting 28 00:00:54,950 --> 00:00:53,199 ready to go live 29 00:00:56,549 --> 00:00:54,960 and an update failing and then you have 30 00:00:58,549 --> 00:00:56,559 to go and redo everything in fact you 31 00:01:00,630 --> 00:00:58,559 and i had a problem right away 32 00:01:02,549 --> 00:01:00,640 uh tonight when we got on there took us 33 00:01:06,469 --> 00:01:02,559 a couple minutes so i apologize 34 00:01:08,630 --> 00:01:06,479 for yeah i know it's crazy 35 00:01:10,630 --> 00:01:08,640 damn well see skype skate's putting 36 00:01:12,950 --> 00:01:10,640 advertising on now 37 00:01:14,390 --> 00:01:12,960 and you told me i that's right microsoft 38 00:01:16,230 --> 00:01:14,400 had bought them so now they're using 39 00:01:18,550 --> 00:01:16,240 advertising on there 40 00:01:20,630 --> 00:01:18,560 so of course you know that's taking up 41 00:01:22,230 --> 00:01:20,640 bandwidth too so 42 00:01:23,670 --> 00:01:22,240 it's crazy whatever and you know we 43 00:01:25,350 --> 00:01:23,680 always appreciate you sticking with us 44 00:01:26,070 --> 00:01:25,360 through all these technical difficulties 45 00:01:27,830 --> 00:01:26,080 but 46 00:01:30,310 --> 00:01:27,840 you know we do provide you a good 47 00:01:31,830 --> 00:01:30,320 quality show at free of charge so 48 00:01:34,550 --> 00:01:31,840 sometimes you get what you pay for we 49 00:01:36,069 --> 00:01:34,560 still love you but uh 50 00:01:37,910 --> 00:01:36,079 it's it's sometimes it's a pain in the 51 00:01:40,469 --> 00:01:37,920 ass to get this going but 52 00:01:41,190 --> 00:01:40,479 it is what it is and tonight we're here 53 00:01:42,710 --> 00:01:41,200 and uh 54 00:01:44,389 --> 00:01:42,720 before we get into the horrifying 55 00:01:45,670 --> 00:01:44,399 bigfoot encounters why don't we talk 56 00:01:47,510 --> 00:01:45,680 about 57 00:01:49,190 --> 00:01:47,520 uh well whatever it is you want to talk 58 00:01:50,550 --> 00:01:49,200 about uh lon butch we got some 59 00:01:51,830 --> 00:01:50,560 interesting things coming down the pipe 60 00:01:55,190 --> 00:01:51,840 today 61 00:01:57,109 --> 00:01:55,200 well we've had um since the last time we 62 00:02:00,149 --> 00:01:57,119 did a show we've had two more 63 00:02:03,749 --> 00:02:00,159 uh sightings out in chicago and 64 00:02:05,670 --> 00:02:03,759 uh one was a was actually 65 00:02:07,429 --> 00:02:05,680 a second sighting around he added a 66 00:02:11,589 --> 00:02:07,439 planetarium 67 00:02:15,190 --> 00:02:11,599 uh that was a witness contacted me 68 00:02:18,630 --> 00:02:17,190 you know it was a good sighting i mean 69 00:02:22,309 --> 00:02:18,640 he basically 70 00:02:24,869 --> 00:02:22,319 verified the previous sighting a week 71 00:02:26,309 --> 00:02:24,879 a week before that at the adler 72 00:02:28,790 --> 00:02:26,319 planetary i mean this was 73 00:02:29,350 --> 00:02:28,800 this is one from the same night same 74 00:02:33,430 --> 00:02:29,360 time 75 00:02:36,790 --> 00:02:33,440 so um he saw the same thing 76 00:02:39,990 --> 00:02:36,800 and then we had another one 77 00:02:43,270 --> 00:02:40,000 uh last from last friday night 78 00:02:44,070 --> 00:02:43,280 gentleman over at uh and this is what 79 00:02:46,710 --> 00:02:44,080 gets me 80 00:02:48,070 --> 00:02:46,720 he was he was a security guy over the 81 00:02:49,990 --> 00:02:48,080 outbar 82 00:02:51,750 --> 00:02:50,000 which you know the owl which is kind of 83 00:02:53,110 --> 00:02:51,760 funny because you know you know my story 84 00:02:56,309 --> 00:02:53,120 with al's 85 00:03:02,830 --> 00:03:00,070 uh he um he gave a 86 00:03:05,589 --> 00:03:02,840 very interesting a very interesting 87 00:03:07,190 --> 00:03:05,599 report because he was outside he would 88 00:03:08,229 --> 00:03:07,200 say he was leaning up against the walls 89 00:03:11,750 --> 00:03:08,239 about 90 00:03:14,869 --> 00:03:11,760 this is the 30th 91 00:03:16,949 --> 00:03:14,879 of june this was in the logan square 92 00:03:20,470 --> 00:03:16,959 area 2500 block of north 93 00:03:21,270 --> 00:03:20,480 milwaukee avenue and he said along the 94 00:03:22,630 --> 00:03:21,280 time he said 95 00:03:24,949 --> 00:03:22,640 it's a few people walking up and down 96 00:03:26,949 --> 00:03:24,959 the street say he noticed 97 00:03:28,470 --> 00:03:26,959 a large bat like creature flying above 98 00:03:32,070 --> 00:03:28,480 the street lights 99 00:03:33,509 --> 00:03:32,080 says about 60 to 70 foot away and it was 100 00:03:35,350 --> 00:03:33,519 across the street there used to be a 101 00:03:36,789 --> 00:03:35,360 building there but it was had just been 102 00:03:38,390 --> 00:03:36,799 leveled 103 00:03:40,070 --> 00:03:38,400 and it's a lot and he said this thing 104 00:03:44,630 --> 00:03:40,080 was flying over the 105 00:03:49,670 --> 00:03:47,830 he said when he looked at it the thing 106 00:03:51,750 --> 00:03:49,680 wasn't looking at him but it was kind of 107 00:03:53,509 --> 00:03:51,760 had his hand turned toward the other way 108 00:03:55,589 --> 00:03:53,519 and he knows something that we haven't 109 00:03:59,190 --> 00:03:55,599 gotten before 110 00:04:01,110 --> 00:03:59,200 uh a pointed crest 111 00:04:02,789 --> 00:04:01,120 coming out from extending from the back 112 00:04:05,110 --> 00:04:02,799 of the head and he said 113 00:04:07,750 --> 00:04:05,120 it was similar to a pterosaur you know 114 00:04:11,670 --> 00:04:07,760 like you see like a pterodactyl 115 00:04:13,670 --> 00:04:11,680 and uh he didn't see eyes or anything 116 00:04:16,069 --> 00:04:13,680 but the description of the body was it 117 00:04:19,110 --> 00:04:16,079 was about five five and a half foot 118 00:04:20,069 --> 00:04:19,120 in length the body and it was grayish in 119 00:04:21,670 --> 00:04:20,079 color 120 00:04:23,350 --> 00:04:21,680 because it was well illuminated because 121 00:04:25,749 --> 00:04:23,360 the street lights 122 00:04:27,350 --> 00:04:25,759 i said the head was human-like but much 123 00:04:29,110 --> 00:04:27,360 thinner just like the one we got in 124 00:04:31,909 --> 00:04:29,120 lincoln park 125 00:04:33,189 --> 00:04:31,919 and had that pointed crest and he said 126 00:04:35,749 --> 00:04:33,199 that um 127 00:04:37,189 --> 00:04:35,759 the body tapered to the back and it 128 00:04:40,550 --> 00:04:37,199 looked like there were short legs or 129 00:04:42,790 --> 00:04:40,560 appendages tucked up underneath it 130 00:04:44,150 --> 00:04:42,800 and the wing spans about eight to ten 131 00:04:47,189 --> 00:04:44,160 foot 132 00:04:49,909 --> 00:04:47,199 the wings were bat like membrane 133 00:04:51,030 --> 00:04:49,919 but heavy like that of a pterosaur so 134 00:04:53,670 --> 00:04:51,040 the witness 135 00:04:55,749 --> 00:04:53,680 noticed that it the being flapped its 136 00:04:57,909 --> 00:04:55,759 wings to gain speed and height 137 00:04:59,189 --> 00:04:57,919 and then it would glide so there was no 138 00:05:03,110 --> 00:04:59,199 sound 139 00:05:06,230 --> 00:05:03,120 uh you said as as it went by him 140 00:05:10,230 --> 00:05:06,240 it flapped got a burst of speed and went 141 00:05:15,670 --> 00:05:10,240 up in the clouds 142 00:05:19,670 --> 00:05:18,310 you know unfortunately he said his his 143 00:05:21,670 --> 00:05:19,680 phone was inside the bar 144 00:05:23,350 --> 00:05:21,680 charging at the time because he said he 145 00:05:24,629 --> 00:05:23,360 grabbed for his phone he realized didn't 146 00:05:28,790 --> 00:05:24,639 have it 147 00:05:30,790 --> 00:05:28,800 and uh but 148 00:05:32,950 --> 00:05:30,800 you know he was pretty convincing and he 149 00:05:35,830 --> 00:05:32,960 wouldn't embellish on her or anything so 150 00:05:37,110 --> 00:05:35,840 you know this is um this was a good 151 00:05:38,150 --> 00:05:37,120 sighting and it had a little bit of 152 00:05:41,590 --> 00:05:38,160 different 153 00:05:44,870 --> 00:05:41,600 flavor to it but it was um 154 00:05:47,110 --> 00:05:44,880 it was a good sighting very strange 155 00:05:48,390 --> 00:05:47,120 uh i just put in the chat tara people 156 00:05:50,550 --> 00:05:48,400 like 157 00:05:53,189 --> 00:05:50,560 are we are we seeing something 158 00:05:56,469 --> 00:05:55,110 that's the first time i got that thing 159 00:05:57,270 --> 00:05:56,479 the description that are coming off 160 00:05:59,110 --> 00:05:57,280 backwards head 161 00:06:00,309 --> 00:05:59,120 now of course you know i i personally 162 00:06:02,070 --> 00:06:00,319 believe 163 00:06:03,590 --> 00:06:02,080 that we're dealing with with more than 164 00:06:06,950 --> 00:06:03,600 one i think 165 00:06:09,029 --> 00:06:06,960 minimum two maybe three um 166 00:06:11,029 --> 00:06:09,039 where they're coming from i don't know i 167 00:06:12,469 --> 00:06:11,039 was reading some interesting things last 168 00:06:17,110 --> 00:06:12,479 night 169 00:06:23,270 --> 00:06:20,230 and possible portals in lake michigan 170 00:06:26,469 --> 00:06:23,280 under water portals that open up 171 00:06:29,430 --> 00:06:26,479 and a few other oddball things 172 00:06:31,189 --> 00:06:29,440 i don't know if that's the case i have i 173 00:06:33,189 --> 00:06:31,199 did mention once before that one of the 174 00:06:36,870 --> 00:06:33,199 sightings had a green 175 00:06:38,230 --> 00:06:36,880 ufo uh associated with that others had 176 00:06:41,510 --> 00:06:38,240 flashing 177 00:06:44,550 --> 00:06:41,520 that came south uh 178 00:06:46,070 --> 00:06:44,560 these portals have been known to open in 179 00:06:48,390 --> 00:06:46,080 lake michigan 180 00:06:50,309 --> 00:06:48,400 in the area the the michigan triangle if 181 00:06:52,710 --> 00:06:50,319 you're familiar with that 182 00:06:54,230 --> 00:06:52,720 and when these portals open up and 183 00:06:57,510 --> 00:06:54,240 people see craft coming 184 00:06:59,990 --> 00:06:57,520 out of the water it's the so 185 00:07:02,469 --> 00:07:00,000 there are a lot of green flashes and 186 00:07:04,550 --> 00:07:02,479 green orbs associated with it 187 00:07:05,909 --> 00:07:04,560 so i don't know if that has any kind of 188 00:07:06,950 --> 00:07:05,919 connection or not 189 00:07:09,909 --> 00:07:06,960 or it's something i'm going to be 190 00:07:14,950 --> 00:07:12,870 well i it gets more and more interesting 191 00:07:16,550 --> 00:07:14,960 every time we get a report 192 00:07:18,390 --> 00:07:16,560 you know we've had a lot of people 193 00:07:20,309 --> 00:07:18,400 comment to us over the weeks 194 00:07:22,469 --> 00:07:20,319 about what's going on there some people 195 00:07:25,270 --> 00:07:22,479 frustrated that we're not 196 00:07:25,670 --> 00:07:25,280 being hard enough on witnesses some 197 00:07:27,029 --> 00:07:25,680 people 198 00:07:28,870 --> 00:07:27,039 frustrated that we're not getting more 199 00:07:30,469 --> 00:07:28,880 reports and i think we've been getting 200 00:07:31,270 --> 00:07:30,479 quite a few reports to be honest with 201 00:07:34,710 --> 00:07:31,280 you 202 00:07:35,110 --> 00:07:34,720 and i and butch is that we just don't 203 00:07:38,550 --> 00:07:35,120 have an 204 00:07:40,870 --> 00:07:38,560 answer to what it is because 205 00:07:42,230 --> 00:07:40,880 this is a different again yet another 206 00:07:44,390 --> 00:07:42,240 different sighting 207 00:07:46,790 --> 00:07:44,400 a different type of sighting that we've 208 00:07:51,029 --> 00:07:46,800 experienced and we've received 209 00:07:52,629 --> 00:07:51,039 yeah yeah i mean it's um 210 00:07:54,150 --> 00:07:52,639 it was interesting you know we had that 211 00:07:55,670 --> 00:07:54,160 layoff of about 10 days 212 00:07:57,430 --> 00:07:55,680 nobody had any report that doesn't mean 213 00:08:00,790 --> 00:07:57,440 it wasn't out there 214 00:08:03,350 --> 00:08:00,800 but uh now we have gotten to report the 215 00:08:05,430 --> 00:08:03,360 last two reports for people that have um 216 00:08:07,110 --> 00:08:05,440 that waited a couple days before they 217 00:08:09,430 --> 00:08:07,120 reported it 218 00:08:11,670 --> 00:08:09,440 uh in fact the one before that was a 219 00:08:14,550 --> 00:08:11,680 couple who had waited a month 220 00:08:16,950 --> 00:08:14,560 so people are kind of hesitant of course 221 00:08:19,350 --> 00:08:16,960 to report it 222 00:08:20,390 --> 00:08:19,360 i i guess if somebody got a photo or 223 00:08:23,110 --> 00:08:20,400 something of it 224 00:08:24,469 --> 00:08:23,120 they'd report it quicker but then again 225 00:08:26,230 --> 00:08:24,479 that may be a 226 00:08:27,670 --> 00:08:26,240 situation where somebody won't report it 227 00:08:31,110 --> 00:08:27,680 at all figuring they're gonna 228 00:08:35,110 --> 00:08:31,120 monetize off of it somehow 229 00:08:43,430 --> 00:08:39,509 the media and the city itself 230 00:08:46,150 --> 00:08:43,440 they've been pretty quiet and uh 231 00:08:48,470 --> 00:08:46,160 that's something else i'm looking into i 232 00:08:51,110 --> 00:08:48,480 i'm just a little surprised 233 00:08:53,190 --> 00:08:51,120 that people are um associated with the 234 00:08:56,230 --> 00:08:53,200 city and the media are just 235 00:08:59,670 --> 00:08:56,240 not wanting to say anything 236 00:09:01,990 --> 00:08:59,680 so um you know i guess it all goes into 237 00:09:03,190 --> 00:09:02,000 this you know but uh 238 00:09:05,030 --> 00:09:03,200 you know it's one of these things where 239 00:09:07,590 --> 00:09:05,040 we just gotta wait and see you know 240 00:09:09,590 --> 00:09:07,600 if something falls in our lap that kind 241 00:09:11,030 --> 00:09:09,600 of gives us an idea of what the hell is 242 00:09:14,470 --> 00:09:11,040 going on then 243 00:09:15,829 --> 00:09:14,480 we'll follow up on it i mean but so far 244 00:09:17,910 --> 00:09:15,839 you know we haven't really gotten a 245 00:09:20,829 --> 00:09:17,920 smoking gun yet but 246 00:09:22,070 --> 00:09:20,839 we've gotten excellent descriptions and 247 00:09:24,389 --> 00:09:22,080 uh 248 00:09:26,150 --> 00:09:24,399 and very good witnesses and to be honest 249 00:09:27,829 --> 00:09:26,160 with you it's too far for me to just get 250 00:09:29,990 --> 00:09:27,839 in my car and go and investigate 251 00:09:32,150 --> 00:09:30,000 you know like it's well it's same here 252 00:09:33,910 --> 00:09:32,160 it's a different 253 00:09:36,870 --> 00:09:33,920 different type of investigation we have 254 00:09:39,190 --> 00:09:36,880 to rely on investigators in that area 255 00:09:40,710 --> 00:09:39,200 to get us and we've got some good ones 256 00:09:41,829 --> 00:09:40,720 out there yeah i mean i've got people 257 00:09:44,310 --> 00:09:41,839 out there that are 258 00:09:45,430 --> 00:09:44,320 helping it tremendously i mean and uh 259 00:09:47,910 --> 00:09:45,440 you know of course 260 00:09:49,110 --> 00:09:47,920 manuel's been getting reports as well so 261 00:09:51,910 --> 00:09:49,120 um 262 00:09:53,430 --> 00:09:51,920 yeah i mean you know we're getting to 263 00:09:55,430 --> 00:09:53,440 talk to people we're getting people to 264 00:09:58,470 --> 00:09:55,440 look into areas 265 00:09:59,829 --> 00:09:58,480 uh i think right now there are three of 266 00:10:02,710 --> 00:09:59,839 us 267 00:10:04,389 --> 00:10:02,720 uh that are looking at things and maybe 268 00:10:05,750 --> 00:10:04,399 some other groups but they're not really 269 00:10:08,630 --> 00:10:05,760 saying much 270 00:10:10,550 --> 00:10:08,640 uh you know i guess when they get some 271 00:10:12,150 --> 00:10:10,560 info they'll let me know about her 272 00:10:14,230 --> 00:10:12,160 won't let me know but either one i don't 273 00:10:17,350 --> 00:10:14,240 know so we'll see 274 00:10:19,590 --> 00:10:17,360 um it doesn't seem anybody else is 275 00:10:22,949 --> 00:10:19,600 reporting anything 276 00:10:25,910 --> 00:10:24,310 i don't know we'll just have to wait and 277 00:10:28,310 --> 00:10:25,920 see what happens well that's all we can 278 00:10:31,190 --> 00:10:28,320 do like report on what we get 279 00:10:31,990 --> 00:10:31,200 disseminate what we get and then we'll 280 00:10:34,790 --> 00:10:32,000 go from there 281 00:10:35,350 --> 00:10:34,800 and who knows where this is gonna lead 282 00:10:37,269 --> 00:10:35,360 us 283 00:10:39,110 --> 00:10:37,279 what kind of uh path this is gonna lead 284 00:10:40,710 --> 00:10:39,120 us down like we've already come up with 285 00:10:44,150 --> 00:10:40,720 some pretty interesting 286 00:10:44,550 --> 00:10:44,160 theories now we just gotta wait and see 287 00:10:53,590 --> 00:10:44,560 what 288 00:10:55,590 --> 00:10:53,600 talk about before we jump into 289 00:10:57,110 --> 00:10:55,600 to the well butch butch got a report 290 00:11:01,190 --> 00:10:57,120 today you want to talk about that but 291 00:11:02,730 --> 00:11:01,200 yeah butch bipedal buddy has made 292 00:11:05,210 --> 00:11:02,740 another sighting 293 00:11:09,269 --> 00:11:05,220 [Music] 294 00:11:12,150 --> 00:11:09,279 [Laughter] 295 00:11:12,790 --> 00:11:12,160 poor james anyway up in mifflin county 296 00:11:14,790 --> 00:11:12,800 uh 297 00:11:16,230 --> 00:11:14,800 the sighting date was the fourth of july 298 00:11:18,710 --> 00:11:16,240 this year 299 00:11:20,550 --> 00:11:18,720 approximately 11 10 a.m number of 300 00:11:23,509 --> 00:11:20,560 witnesses too 301 00:11:24,630 --> 00:11:23,519 a resident and a friend of his who live 302 00:11:27,430 --> 00:11:24,640 in the weikert pa 303 00:11:29,269 --> 00:11:27,440 area were on a designated hiking trail 304 00:11:30,710 --> 00:11:29,279 in the bald eagle state park 305 00:11:32,310 --> 00:11:30,720 when they heard something walking to 306 00:11:34,949 --> 00:11:32,320 their right in the woods 307 00:11:36,550 --> 00:11:34,959 as if it was following them they looked 308 00:11:38,470 --> 00:11:36,560 on several occasions in that direction 309 00:11:39,110 --> 00:11:38,480 but saw nothing and continue to hear the 310 00:11:40,949 --> 00:11:39,120 noise 311 00:11:42,790 --> 00:11:40,959 as if something was walking parallel to 312 00:11:43,670 --> 00:11:42,800 them their first thought it might have 313 00:11:45,350 --> 00:11:43,680 been a deer 314 00:11:46,710 --> 00:11:45,360 but then the substantial noise that was 315 00:11:48,150 --> 00:11:46,720 coming 316 00:11:50,069 --> 00:11:48,160 the second guess was it could have been 317 00:11:51,990 --> 00:11:50,079 a bear now the one gentleman was armed 318 00:11:55,190 --> 00:11:52,000 with a 40 caliber clock pistol so 319 00:11:56,550 --> 00:11:55,200 they continued and heard a sudden 320 00:11:58,949 --> 00:11:56,560 stopping noise 321 00:12:00,710 --> 00:11:58,959 and the noise just ceased they stopped 322 00:12:02,470 --> 00:12:00,720 to look around there was nothing visible 323 00:12:03,990 --> 00:12:02,480 to the right or left 324 00:12:05,910 --> 00:12:04,000 then they turned around to look behind 325 00:12:08,069 --> 00:12:05,920 them and approximately 50 yards 326 00:12:09,590 --> 00:12:08,079 behind them stood a large animal they 327 00:12:11,590 --> 00:12:09,600 first thought was a bear standing on his 328 00:12:13,350 --> 00:12:11,600 hind legs but quickly quickly realized 329 00:12:15,030 --> 00:12:13,360 it was not a bear 330 00:12:16,550 --> 00:12:15,040 witness description was a large 331 00:12:18,629 --> 00:12:16,560 wolf-like head with 332 00:12:20,629 --> 00:12:18,639 short pointed ears eight to ten foot 333 00:12:23,509 --> 00:12:20,639 tall long muscular human-like 334 00:12:25,750 --> 00:12:23,519 arms and hands massive chest very thin 335 00:12:29,190 --> 00:12:25,760 around the waist area muscular legs 336 00:12:32,629 --> 00:12:29,200 and the knees down what looked like 337 00:12:34,150 --> 00:12:32,639 the dog's hind legs hocked its coat was 338 00:12:35,590 --> 00:12:34,160 very short and dark brown 339 00:12:38,790 --> 00:12:35,600 could have been black but it looked 340 00:12:40,310 --> 00:12:38,800 brown it made no movement toward them 341 00:12:42,310 --> 00:12:40,320 but just kept staring at them 342 00:12:44,710 --> 00:12:42,320 what with what is described by the 343 00:12:46,470 --> 00:12:44,720 witnesses bright yellowish eyes 344 00:12:48,310 --> 00:12:46,480 they started back to the area where they 345 00:12:50,069 --> 00:12:48,320 had left their vehicle 346 00:12:52,310 --> 00:12:50,079 and looking back constantly but it was 347 00:12:54,310 --> 00:12:52,320 not there 348 00:12:55,910 --> 00:12:54,320 but again they heard the following to 349 00:12:58,069 --> 00:12:55,920 the right 350 00:12:59,829 --> 00:12:58,079 parallel to where they were walking and 351 00:13:01,190 --> 00:12:59,839 there was noise as before emitting from 352 00:13:03,030 --> 00:13:01,200 the woods 353 00:13:04,550 --> 00:13:03,040 upon arriving from their vehicle to 354 00:13:06,470 --> 00:13:04,560 their vehicle there 355 00:13:07,590 --> 00:13:06,480 stood in the tree line watching them as 356 00:13:10,710 --> 00:13:07,600 they stayed 357 00:13:13,750 --> 00:13:10,720 and was still and just stayed there 358 00:13:17,190 --> 00:13:13,760 until they left the area 359 00:13:18,829 --> 00:13:17,200 um the gentleman is one gentleman 360 00:13:20,550 --> 00:13:18,839 is familiar with the woods he works with 361 00:13:23,750 --> 00:13:20,560 dcnr 362 00:13:26,550 --> 00:13:23,760 and he would also like to remain 363 00:13:28,790 --> 00:13:26,560 anonymous of course because of his job 364 00:13:30,150 --> 00:13:28,800 but he did leave us contact information 365 00:13:32,790 --> 00:13:30,160 if we needed more information 366 00:13:34,150 --> 00:13:32,800 his companion on the other hand is 367 00:13:35,990 --> 00:13:34,160 shaken up to the point where i think 368 00:13:36,870 --> 00:13:36,000 he's just about ready to sell his hiking 369 00:13:39,910 --> 00:13:36,880 boots 370 00:13:42,629 --> 00:13:39,920 oh wow um 371 00:13:44,470 --> 00:13:42,639 the description is as all that we've 372 00:13:48,230 --> 00:13:44,480 gotten 373 00:13:49,750 --> 00:13:48,240 no different this the terrain up there 374 00:13:52,230 --> 00:13:49,760 is very heavily wooded and heavy 375 00:13:54,870 --> 00:13:52,240 undergrowth 376 00:13:56,550 --> 00:13:54,880 and bald state a bald eagle state park 377 00:13:59,350 --> 00:13:56,560 it just connects to so many 378 00:14:00,629 --> 00:13:59,360 different state parks and forests and 379 00:14:03,590 --> 00:14:00,639 directly west of 380 00:14:05,189 --> 00:14:03,600 of that siding area is where we had the 381 00:14:07,269 --> 00:14:05,199 one siding where the 382 00:14:10,790 --> 00:14:07,279 young lady watched it at her standing at 383 00:14:15,829 --> 00:14:10,800 her pond for about 10 or 15 minutes 384 00:14:17,189 --> 00:14:15,839 so this is just about when they started 385 00:14:18,949 --> 00:14:17,199 in previous reports 386 00:14:20,389 --> 00:14:18,959 they seem to start toward the middle or 387 00:14:23,509 --> 00:14:20,399 the end of the summer 388 00:14:25,030 --> 00:14:23,519 and go into uh the fall 389 00:14:28,829 --> 00:14:25,040 and then they're kind of silent during 390 00:14:35,110 --> 00:14:32,230 so there we go it's on the list 391 00:14:37,430 --> 00:14:35,120 you know what i find interesting guys is 392 00:14:40,629 --> 00:14:37,440 the last couple years the amount 393 00:14:42,829 --> 00:14:40,639 of people that have worked with the dcnr 394 00:14:44,230 --> 00:14:42,839 that are coming forward to report 395 00:14:45,990 --> 00:14:44,240 strange 396 00:14:48,470 --> 00:14:46,000 creature sightings in the woods of 397 00:14:49,990 --> 00:14:48,480 pennsylvania 398 00:14:51,750 --> 00:14:50,000 i mean there's been this third one 399 00:14:54,629 --> 00:14:51,760 pennsylvania uh 400 00:14:55,829 --> 00:14:54,639 and you know i had a gentleman make 401 00:14:59,110 --> 00:14:55,839 contact with us 402 00:15:00,949 --> 00:14:59,120 a couple years back uh about a bigfoot 403 00:15:03,189 --> 00:15:00,959 sighting that they had and and 404 00:15:05,189 --> 00:15:03,199 you know again these guys work for the 405 00:15:08,550 --> 00:15:05,199 fish and game the dc and r 406 00:15:09,590 --> 00:15:08,560 like these are the kind of reports that 407 00:15:13,350 --> 00:15:09,600 are telling to me 408 00:15:15,350 --> 00:15:13,360 because their gentlemen or women that 409 00:15:16,790 --> 00:15:15,360 are used to working in a professional 410 00:15:18,629 --> 00:15:16,800 outdoor setting 411 00:15:20,310 --> 00:15:18,639 very familiar with the creatures that 412 00:15:22,470 --> 00:15:20,320 inhabit the woods of pennsylvania the 413 00:15:23,990 --> 00:15:22,480 wildlife of pennsylvania 414 00:15:26,230 --> 00:15:24,000 and they see something that they can't 415 00:15:26,870 --> 00:15:26,240 explain why do people have a hard time 416 00:15:30,150 --> 00:15:26,880 with that 417 00:15:33,189 --> 00:15:30,160 like that there would never 418 00:15:34,069 --> 00:15:33,199 be a a better example of an expert 419 00:15:36,629 --> 00:15:34,079 witness 420 00:15:38,150 --> 00:15:36,639 you know what i'm saying like it's just 421 00:15:39,350 --> 00:15:38,160 so telling i don't understand why people 422 00:15:40,710 --> 00:15:39,360 have a hard time with those sighting 423 00:15:42,470 --> 00:15:40,720 reports 424 00:15:44,870 --> 00:15:42,480 and it's kind of funny because in the 425 00:15:47,509 --> 00:15:44,880 last i think on what three months we've 426 00:15:50,790 --> 00:15:47,519 gotten two contacts 427 00:15:52,790 --> 00:15:50,800 from uh the dcnr and both individuals 428 00:15:54,470 --> 00:15:52,800 are willing to help 429 00:15:55,990 --> 00:15:54,480 well butch another thing that's funny 430 00:15:56,949 --> 00:15:56,000 about that and you and i have just 431 00:15:59,189 --> 00:15:56,959 talked about this 432 00:16:00,949 --> 00:15:59,199 you know a couple of months ago is the 433 00:16:02,389 --> 00:16:00,959 amount of people that have retired from 434 00:16:05,030 --> 00:16:02,399 law enforcement that want to be a part 435 00:16:07,749 --> 00:16:05,040 of what we're doing 436 00:16:09,509 --> 00:16:07,759 it's amazing that these guys want to put 437 00:16:11,430 --> 00:16:09,519 their skills to use 438 00:16:14,389 --> 00:16:11,440 in a field where we desperately need 439 00:16:18,069 --> 00:16:14,399 this type of investigation 440 00:16:20,230 --> 00:16:18,079 and uh it's incredible so this is 441 00:16:21,590 --> 00:16:20,240 an expert report in my mind of what 442 00:16:22,949 --> 00:16:21,600 we're talking about here i'm familiar 443 00:16:24,310 --> 00:16:22,959 with the area 444 00:16:28,150 --> 00:16:24,320 that you guys are talking about my 445 00:16:31,910 --> 00:16:28,160 wife's family had a cabin out that way 446 00:16:34,389 --> 00:16:31,920 and it's it's 447 00:16:35,749 --> 00:16:34,399 pretty it can be pretty pretty wild out 448 00:16:37,350 --> 00:16:35,759 there 449 00:16:39,269 --> 00:16:37,360 yeah well i was looking at i was doing 450 00:16:42,550 --> 00:16:39,279 some searches today in the areas 451 00:16:42,870 --> 00:16:42,560 and um it's it's as heavily wooded if 452 00:16:44,470 --> 00:16:42,880 not 453 00:16:47,910 --> 00:16:44,480 more because there's a lot of heavy 454 00:16:51,269 --> 00:16:47,920 undergrowth there than clearfield county 455 00:16:53,910 --> 00:16:51,279 and it seems like uh 456 00:16:55,509 --> 00:16:53,920 there are very few walking trails or 457 00:16:57,350 --> 00:16:55,519 fishing streams there 458 00:16:59,110 --> 00:16:57,360 unlike clearfield county and other 459 00:17:02,629 --> 00:16:59,120 clinton county and other counties 460 00:17:04,710 --> 00:17:02,639 but um you know it's the distance 461 00:17:05,750 --> 00:17:04,720 i mean from if if we just think about 462 00:17:07,829 --> 00:17:05,760 just for a second 463 00:17:10,069 --> 00:17:07,839 you know we got the strange screams 464 00:17:11,829 --> 00:17:10,079 happening up in your area 465 00:17:13,590 --> 00:17:11,839 and you draw a line down to that area 466 00:17:15,590 --> 00:17:13,600 it's not very far 467 00:17:16,710 --> 00:17:15,600 and you draw a line over to port matilda 468 00:17:19,270 --> 00:17:16,720 where we had the 469 00:17:20,630 --> 00:17:19,280 sighting of the creature by the pond and 470 00:17:21,750 --> 00:17:20,640 take that point and take it up to 471 00:17:24,870 --> 00:17:21,760 clearfield 472 00:17:26,309 --> 00:17:24,880 it's not a very very big area at all 473 00:17:29,029 --> 00:17:26,319 and all these state parks and state 474 00:17:30,830 --> 00:17:29,039 forests they all connect each other 475 00:17:33,029 --> 00:17:30,840 i mean they're all connected one way or 476 00:17:35,190 --> 00:17:33,039 another 477 00:17:36,789 --> 00:17:35,200 to make that trip you're talking you're 478 00:17:39,029 --> 00:17:36,799 talking about an eight or nine hour trip 479 00:17:40,310 --> 00:17:39,039 to make a complete circle 480 00:17:42,310 --> 00:17:40,320 yeah through there don't you think i 481 00:17:44,150 --> 00:17:42,320 mean so it's not i mean it's 482 00:17:46,630 --> 00:17:44,160 it's not a large area but it's a it's a 483 00:17:48,710 --> 00:17:46,640 large area i mean oh yeah if you 484 00:17:50,070 --> 00:17:48,720 if you did a circle if you if you you 485 00:17:51,590 --> 00:17:50,080 know made a circle came back to where 486 00:17:53,590 --> 00:17:51,600 you started absolutely eight or nine 487 00:17:58,789 --> 00:17:53,600 hours 488 00:18:02,150 --> 00:17:59,909 i think that's what people take for 489 00:18:04,710 --> 00:18:02,160 granted i think this particular setting 490 00:18:06,310 --> 00:18:04,720 um and that's why i was talking to butch 491 00:18:09,110 --> 00:18:06,320 about it last night i i 492 00:18:11,430 --> 00:18:09,120 it sounds to me like this thing had um 493 00:18:14,630 --> 00:18:11,440 was protecting something uh you know 494 00:18:19,029 --> 00:18:14,640 maybe a young juvenile or whatever 495 00:18:21,750 --> 00:18:19,039 uh but you know the fact that it circled 496 00:18:22,630 --> 00:18:21,760 past them and got to the location where 497 00:18:24,870 --> 00:18:22,640 they 498 00:18:26,070 --> 00:18:24,880 ended up at this thing was keeping an 499 00:18:28,870 --> 00:18:26,080 eye on them 500 00:18:30,549 --> 00:18:28,880 oh yeah so yeah this thing was you know 501 00:18:33,830 --> 00:18:30,559 i i really i really believe 502 00:18:34,870 --> 00:18:33,840 it was watching something well and i had 503 00:18:36,870 --> 00:18:34,880 i had asked the witness 504 00:18:38,390 --> 00:18:36,880 if you know if he heard any noise in the 505 00:18:38,950 --> 00:18:38,400 woods while they were walking down 506 00:18:40,390 --> 00:18:38,960 through 507 00:18:42,390 --> 00:18:40,400 or when they made their turn around to 508 00:18:44,230 --> 00:18:42,400 come back he said no he said 509 00:18:45,510 --> 00:18:44,240 pretty much we were you know we went all 510 00:18:45,830 --> 00:18:45,520 the way down we didn't hear anything at 511 00:18:48,630 --> 00:18:45,840 all 512 00:18:49,510 --> 00:18:48,640 and then um when they made their turn 513 00:18:51,590 --> 00:18:49,520 around to 514 00:18:52,950 --> 00:18:51,600 go back toward the vehicle that's what 515 00:18:54,390 --> 00:18:52,960 the minute they turned around and 516 00:18:56,470 --> 00:18:54,400 started going back 517 00:18:57,750 --> 00:18:56,480 is when the noise of something walking 518 00:18:59,350 --> 00:18:57,760 and like the guy said he said my first 519 00:19:01,190 --> 00:18:59,360 thought was a deer 520 00:19:03,270 --> 00:19:01,200 but he said then it was just too heavy 521 00:19:04,549 --> 00:19:03,280 too much noise for a deer 522 00:19:06,310 --> 00:19:04,559 and then that's when he figured it might 523 00:19:07,830 --> 00:19:06,320 have been a bear and even when they 524 00:19:09,430 --> 00:19:07,840 didn't see it behind him 525 00:19:11,350 --> 00:19:09,440 fred's first thought was it was a bear 526 00:19:17,029 --> 00:19:11,360 standing up but 527 00:19:21,110 --> 00:19:19,190 yeah it's incredible well that's a good 528 00:19:22,789 --> 00:19:21,120 story and again these are the things i 529 00:19:24,230 --> 00:19:22,799 talk about 530 00:19:26,230 --> 00:19:24,240 when you know i sound like a broken 531 00:19:30,470 --> 00:19:26,240 record here expert witness 532 00:19:31,430 --> 00:19:30,480 testimony from experienced field people 533 00:19:33,190 --> 00:19:31,440 and 534 00:19:34,950 --> 00:19:33,200 they don't get much better than that it 535 00:19:36,390 --> 00:19:34,960 goes right into that and fits right in 536 00:19:41,909 --> 00:19:36,400 that area but 537 00:19:45,430 --> 00:19:44,549 more to come on this one folks but guys 538 00:19:47,990 --> 00:19:45,440 we haven't 539 00:19:51,029 --> 00:19:48,000 go ahead butcher until until this day we 540 00:19:53,590 --> 00:19:51,039 have nothing outside that loop 541 00:19:55,430 --> 00:19:53,600 historical report but i mean as far as 542 00:19:57,750 --> 00:19:55,440 recent reports outside that loop we have 543 00:20:01,830 --> 00:20:00,310 yeah within the last two years they're 544 00:20:06,070 --> 00:20:01,840 all within there i mean it's 545 00:20:07,990 --> 00:20:06,080 uh for whatever reason 546 00:20:09,430 --> 00:20:08,000 however it's getting there or what it's 547 00:20:12,870 --> 00:20:09,440 doing there 548 00:20:17,029 --> 00:20:12,880 i mean it's a big area but still i mean 549 00:20:19,750 --> 00:20:17,039 they're staying within that area itself 550 00:20:21,190 --> 00:20:19,760 but you know if you look at if you look 551 00:20:23,110 --> 00:20:21,200 at the area 552 00:20:25,669 --> 00:20:23,120 from top to bottom and i'm talking like 553 00:20:27,830 --> 00:20:25,679 from the maron line 554 00:20:28,789 --> 00:20:27,840 in southern york county up and the whole 555 00:20:32,230 --> 00:20:28,799 way up above 556 00:20:33,990 --> 00:20:32,240 clearfield uh 557 00:20:35,430 --> 00:20:34,000 i mean it's a lot of territory and it's 558 00:20:38,470 --> 00:20:35,440 it's a lot 559 00:20:41,990 --> 00:20:38,480 a lot of places to hide i mean there are 560 00:20:45,350 --> 00:20:42,000 at least five sets of ridges that are 561 00:20:48,710 --> 00:20:45,360 you know that are in that 562 00:20:52,149 --> 00:20:48,720 that area i mean full mountain ridges 563 00:20:55,669 --> 00:20:52,159 in valleys so you know oh yeah you got 564 00:20:58,950 --> 00:20:55,679 caves you got tunnels you got old mines 565 00:21:00,470 --> 00:20:58,960 yeah a ton of abandoned properties up 566 00:21:03,830 --> 00:21:00,480 through there 567 00:21:06,070 --> 00:21:03,840 i mean 568 00:21:08,470 --> 00:21:06,080 it's going to be a busy uh season i 569 00:21:09,830 --> 00:21:08,480 think we'll still 570 00:21:12,070 --> 00:21:09,840 have to get some boots on the grounds up 571 00:21:14,070 --> 00:21:12,080 there guys 572 00:21:16,630 --> 00:21:14,080 we gotta we got a team assembled here 573 00:21:18,230 --> 00:21:16,640 now we got guys itching at the bit to 574 00:21:21,430 --> 00:21:18,240 get out there and 575 00:21:24,230 --> 00:21:21,440 look at some stuff oh yeah i've gotten 576 00:21:25,990 --> 00:21:24,240 letters and emails and phone calls from 577 00:21:27,110 --> 00:21:26,000 at least half a dozen volunteers that 578 00:21:29,510 --> 00:21:27,120 actually live in the area 579 00:21:30,950 --> 00:21:29,520 and they're either ex-law enforcement or 580 00:21:32,950 --> 00:21:30,960 current law enforcement 581 00:21:35,350 --> 00:21:32,960 or they were involved somehow with 582 00:21:37,669 --> 00:21:35,360 working in the wooded areas 583 00:21:39,430 --> 00:21:37,679 it's great stuff what i'm looking for i 584 00:21:42,870 --> 00:21:39,440 know what you're looking for too 585 00:21:44,310 --> 00:21:42,880 so tonight's show is about horrifying 586 00:21:45,909 --> 00:21:44,320 bigfoot encounters and we wanted to 587 00:21:47,270 --> 00:21:45,919 spend some time on this because one it's 588 00:21:48,710 --> 00:21:47,280 a fun subject because 589 00:21:51,669 --> 00:21:48,720 who doesn't like to get the [\h__\h] scared 590 00:21:53,110 --> 00:21:51,679 out of themselves and 591 00:21:54,870 --> 00:21:53,120 and it's getting to be bedtime for some 592 00:21:56,950 --> 00:21:54,880 of our folks out there so 593 00:21:58,310 --> 00:21:56,960 we got about uh we got a little bit of 594 00:21:59,909 --> 00:21:58,320 time here to talk about some of these 595 00:22:02,390 --> 00:21:59,919 and i'll read you one first guys this 596 00:22:04,950 --> 00:22:02,400 has been my absolute favorite one 597 00:22:06,630 --> 00:22:04,960 for a while and it's very chilling and 598 00:22:07,510 --> 00:22:06,640 i'll go ahead and read this and folks go 599 00:22:10,230 --> 00:22:07,520 ahead and 600 00:22:11,430 --> 00:22:10,240 get yourself some uh nice tea and as 601 00:22:13,990 --> 00:22:11,440 uncle fork chop 602 00:22:14,630 --> 00:22:14,000 read your bedtime story now this is from 603 00:22:17,350 --> 00:22:14,640 the 604 00:22:18,630 --> 00:22:17,360 bfro website and i read this it's from 605 00:22:21,430 --> 00:22:18,640 the year 2004 606 00:22:22,789 --> 00:22:21,440 all right in the spring of april uh 607 00:22:25,270 --> 00:22:22,799 april 3rd 608 00:22:25,990 --> 00:22:25,280 in texas panola county and i'm going to 609 00:22:27,830 --> 00:22:26,000 read the narrative 610 00:22:29,909 --> 00:22:27,840 right off the bfrl website so you guys 611 00:22:31,830 --> 00:22:29,919 know i'm not going to embellish any of 612 00:22:34,710 --> 00:22:31,840 this 613 00:22:36,950 --> 00:22:34,720 and it's in the the saban river bottoms 614 00:22:38,470 --> 00:22:36,960 i was hog hunting from a tree stand next 615 00:22:40,789 --> 00:22:38,480 to the sabin river 616 00:22:43,029 --> 00:22:40,799 i had gone to my stand at around 5 30 617 00:22:44,710 --> 00:22:43,039 a.m put out apple slices and table 618 00:22:46,390 --> 00:22:44,720 scrubs to hold the hogs for a few 619 00:22:48,230 --> 00:22:46,400 minutes for a shot 620 00:22:49,990 --> 00:22:48,240 i got in my tree stand and waited for 621 00:22:50,870 --> 00:22:50,000 the woods to settle down and the sun to 622 00:22:53,590 --> 00:22:50,880 rise 623 00:22:55,990 --> 00:22:53,600 at sunup i heard hogs rooting around 624 00:22:57,669 --> 00:22:56,000 working the river's edge towards me 625 00:23:00,789 --> 00:22:57,679 i could first see them to my left at 626 00:23:02,789 --> 00:23:00,799 about 45 degrees about 50 yards out 627 00:23:04,870 --> 00:23:02,799 no clear shot waiting for them to get to 628 00:23:08,470 --> 00:23:04,880 my bait area i noticed movement to my 629 00:23:10,789 --> 00:23:08,480 right about 80 yards out putting my 630 00:23:12,470 --> 00:23:10,799 rifle scope on it i could see only the 631 00:23:14,710 --> 00:23:12,480 side of something's face 632 00:23:16,230 --> 00:23:14,720 it was dark hair covered and slowly 633 00:23:18,310 --> 00:23:16,240 moving its head around looking in the 634 00:23:20,230 --> 00:23:18,320 direction of the hogs 635 00:23:23,110 --> 00:23:20,240 at this time it quickly moved to another 636 00:23:23,669 --> 00:23:23,120 tree i could see most of its body it was 637 00:23:25,830 --> 00:23:23,679 huge 638 00:23:28,950 --> 00:23:25,840 standing on two legs slowly looking 639 00:23:30,789 --> 00:23:28,960 around the tree at the hogs 640 00:23:32,549 --> 00:23:30,799 at this time i was quite afraid but 641 00:23:33,590 --> 00:23:32,559 tried to keep my scope on it to study 642 00:23:35,350 --> 00:23:33,600 its features 643 00:23:36,950 --> 00:23:35,360 the hogs were still feeding towards my 644 00:23:38,149 --> 00:23:36,960 bait area and the animal was working 645 00:23:40,470 --> 00:23:38,159 towards the hogs 646 00:23:42,230 --> 00:23:40,480 and moved quickly and it disappeared it 647 00:23:44,149 --> 00:23:42,240 quickly reappeared moving to another 648 00:23:46,789 --> 00:23:44,159 tree still looking at the hogs 649 00:23:48,549 --> 00:23:46,799 i could again study its features at this 650 00:23:51,430 --> 00:23:48,559 time i was quite afraid to keep 651 00:23:53,350 --> 00:23:51,440 my uh tried afraid but i kept trying to 652 00:23:55,110 --> 00:23:53,360 keep my scope on 653 00:23:57,029 --> 00:23:55,120 its movement from tree to tree was it 654 00:23:59,830 --> 00:23:57,039 quickly planting at the base of 655 00:24:01,430 --> 00:23:59,840 of the next tree on two feet standing 656 00:24:02,710 --> 00:24:01,440 behind the tree and slowly looking 657 00:24:04,390 --> 00:24:02,720 around at the hogs 658 00:24:06,470 --> 00:24:04,400 this continued for several minutes until 659 00:24:08,070 --> 00:24:06,480 they were about 30 yards apart and 660 00:24:09,510 --> 00:24:08,080 almost directly in front of me at about 661 00:24:11,669 --> 00:24:09,520 40 yards 662 00:24:13,510 --> 00:24:11,679 the animal dropped to all fours bunched 663 00:24:15,830 --> 00:24:13,520 up its rear legs and leaped 664 00:24:17,510 --> 00:24:15,840 it took two leaps to reach the hogs and 665 00:24:19,510 --> 00:24:17,520 it screamed during the second leap 666 00:24:21,590 --> 00:24:19,520 causing the hogs to panic for a split 667 00:24:25,190 --> 00:24:21,600 second 668 00:24:26,549 --> 00:24:25,200 one hog on its side 669 00:24:29,190 --> 00:24:26,559 knocking it through the air into the 670 00:24:31,110 --> 00:24:29,200 side of a tree as the squealing hog 671 00:24:33,190 --> 00:24:31,120 bounced off the tree it pounced on it 672 00:24:34,870 --> 00:24:33,200 beating it with its fists like a person 673 00:24:36,630 --> 00:24:34,880 pounding on a desk 674 00:24:39,750 --> 00:24:36,640 i could hear bones crunching with each 675 00:24:41,750 --> 00:24:39,760 hip as this happened very fast 676 00:24:44,310 --> 00:24:41,760 all this happened very fast about four 677 00:24:46,310 --> 00:24:44,320 seconds from first leap to the dead hog 678 00:24:47,430 --> 00:24:46,320 the quickness of the attack was very 679 00:24:49,830 --> 00:24:47,440 unnerving 680 00:24:51,750 --> 00:24:49,840 the three live hogs were in full flight 681 00:24:53,269 --> 00:24:51,760 the animal picked up the dead hog 682 00:24:56,310 --> 00:24:53,279 tucked it under its arm and started 683 00:24:58,630 --> 00:24:56,320 walking off and let out a noise like 684 00:25:00,470 --> 00:24:58,640 [Music] 685 00:25:02,950 --> 00:25:00,480 it was immediately answered from about 686 00:25:06,230 --> 00:25:02,960 200 to 300 yards out by a shorter 687 00:25:08,070 --> 00:25:06,240 whoop whoop after a couple more steps in 688 00:25:09,750 --> 00:25:08,080 the direction of the answer it stopped 689 00:25:12,710 --> 00:25:09,760 dropped the hog and turned to look 690 00:25:14,630 --> 00:25:12,720 past me it turned back to my tree and it 691 00:25:17,110 --> 00:25:14,640 raised its head to look at me 692 00:25:18,870 --> 00:25:17,120 i have never been more afraid of my life 693 00:25:20,149 --> 00:25:18,880 i tried to keep the scope on its head in 694 00:25:22,230 --> 00:25:20,159 case it came after me 695 00:25:24,789 --> 00:25:22,240 it looked at me cocked its head to one 696 00:25:26,230 --> 00:25:24,799 side its face had a curious expression 697 00:25:28,789 --> 00:25:26,240 as if studying me 698 00:25:31,110 --> 00:25:28,799 it opened its mouth showing its teeth 699 00:25:33,110 --> 00:25:31,120 letting out a soft mer sound 700 00:25:34,789 --> 00:25:33,120 and then turned back to pick up the hog 701 00:25:37,669 --> 00:25:34,799 and walked off in no hurry as if i 702 00:25:42,070 --> 00:25:39,590 i was looking through it at a three by 703 00:25:43,669 --> 00:25:42,080 nine scope originally set on three power 704 00:25:45,269 --> 00:25:43,679 for the hunt but it turned up to nine 705 00:25:47,350 --> 00:25:45,279 power after first trying to see the 706 00:25:49,029 --> 00:25:47,360 object approaching from my right 707 00:25:51,190 --> 00:25:49,039 after that time i was afraid to make the 708 00:25:51,990 --> 00:25:51,200 movement necessary to take scope off 9 709 00:25:53,830 --> 00:25:52,000 power 710 00:25:56,470 --> 00:25:53,840 i sat in my tree stand for another 30 711 00:25:58,710 --> 00:25:56,480 minutes or so trying to calm myself 712 00:26:00,149 --> 00:25:58,720 after concluding that that if it wanted 713 00:26:01,269 --> 00:26:00,159 me it would have already slapped me out 714 00:26:02,950 --> 00:26:01,279 of my tree stand 715 00:26:04,390 --> 00:26:02,960 i got down and went to find my hunting 716 00:26:05,590 --> 00:26:04,400 partner who was about a quarter to a 717 00:26:07,510 --> 00:26:05,600 half mile away 718 00:26:09,190 --> 00:26:07,520 he heard the attack scream in both 719 00:26:12,630 --> 00:26:09,200 whooping calls 720 00:26:17,029 --> 00:26:15,669 yeah man 721 00:26:18,950 --> 00:26:17,039 i would have had a heart attack in my 722 00:26:20,470 --> 00:26:18,960 tree stand 723 00:26:24,310 --> 00:26:20,480 now i wonder how many people would have 724 00:26:25,590 --> 00:26:24,320 took a shot and then again you know 725 00:26:27,590 --> 00:26:25,600 every time i hear something like that 726 00:26:29,190 --> 00:26:27,600 nobody wants to take a shot at it no but 727 00:26:32,149 --> 00:26:29,200 it's the same thing with a camera right 728 00:26:33,110 --> 00:26:32,159 they see this and it's almost like uh 729 00:26:35,190 --> 00:26:33,120 you're just so 730 00:26:36,870 --> 00:26:35,200 caught up in the moment either through 731 00:26:38,630 --> 00:26:36,880 adrenaline or fear 732 00:26:40,789 --> 00:26:38,640 that you're just afraid to move i don't 733 00:26:42,070 --> 00:26:40,799 know if it even if you're even thinking 734 00:26:44,870 --> 00:26:42,080 about it in that moment 735 00:26:45,830 --> 00:26:44,880 like yeah yeah i think you're right i 736 00:26:48,070 --> 00:26:45,840 mean you know 737 00:26:49,750 --> 00:26:48,080 it seems like that to me and when people 738 00:26:52,630 --> 00:26:49,760 see these things 739 00:26:54,149 --> 00:26:52,640 uh you know because you know nowadays of 740 00:26:56,070 --> 00:26:54,159 course there's the means to take over 741 00:26:57,590 --> 00:26:56,080 shot with it but people just don't 742 00:26:59,190 --> 00:26:57,600 like you say they don't even think about 743 00:27:01,190 --> 00:26:59,200 it doesn't even dawn on them 744 00:27:03,029 --> 00:27:01,200 but you're seeing something that doesn't 745 00:27:05,190 --> 00:27:03,039 exist for the first time 746 00:27:07,110 --> 00:27:05,200 right and you just witnessed it kill a 747 00:27:08,870 --> 00:27:07,120 freaking hog 748 00:27:10,149 --> 00:27:08,880 like the first thing i'm not going to 749 00:27:11,269 --> 00:27:10,159 think about is pulling the trigger to 750 00:27:13,190 --> 00:27:11,279 put one down i mean 751 00:27:15,190 --> 00:27:13,200 i'm not a hunter but i wouldn't think 752 00:27:17,269 --> 00:27:15,200 that go ahead butch 753 00:27:18,789 --> 00:27:17,279 well what i was going to say is you know 754 00:27:20,310 --> 00:27:18,799 i had that problem when i first started 755 00:27:21,430 --> 00:27:20,320 with these bipedals you know how would i 756 00:27:23,029 --> 00:27:21,440 get a picture 757 00:27:24,549 --> 00:27:23,039 because like you said you're going to 758 00:27:26,470 --> 00:27:24,559 possibly see something you've never seen 759 00:27:27,750 --> 00:27:26,480 before or thought existed 760 00:27:30,230 --> 00:27:27,760 and you're not going to worry about the 761 00:27:31,430 --> 00:27:30,240 camera that's going to be the last thing 762 00:27:34,149 --> 00:27:31,440 on your mind 763 00:27:35,669 --> 00:27:34,159 so i guess that's why we went with 764 00:27:38,149 --> 00:27:35,679 everything automatic that the cameras 765 00:27:40,310 --> 00:27:38,159 will keep rolling no matter what happens 766 00:27:41,830 --> 00:27:40,320 uh plus the body cams that we're wearing 767 00:27:42,950 --> 00:27:41,840 you know everything's gonna be recorded 768 00:27:44,950 --> 00:27:42,960 so 769 00:27:46,149 --> 00:27:44,960 even if we do come face to face or do 770 00:27:48,230 --> 00:27:46,159 spot one 771 00:27:49,350 --> 00:27:48,240 uh we don't have to worry about you know 772 00:27:51,269 --> 00:27:49,360 somebody grabbing a 773 00:27:52,710 --> 00:27:51,279 camera and taking a shot the 774 00:27:54,149 --> 00:27:52,720 surveillance cameras and 775 00:27:56,070 --> 00:27:54,159 the digital and the floor cameras will 776 00:27:58,789 --> 00:27:56,080 be doing the work for us 777 00:28:00,070 --> 00:27:58,799 and but that i find you know almost even 778 00:28:02,230 --> 00:28:00,080 with ufo sightings 779 00:28:04,310 --> 00:28:02,240 you know great sightings and great 780 00:28:06,549 --> 00:28:04,320 descriptions and 781 00:28:07,750 --> 00:28:06,559 did you get a picture uh no i forgot all 782 00:28:09,669 --> 00:28:07,760 about my camera 783 00:28:11,190 --> 00:28:09,679 or uh you know some of the bigfoot 784 00:28:13,750 --> 00:28:11,200 sightings where 785 00:28:15,350 --> 00:28:13,760 you know they just don't get a picture 786 00:28:15,990 --> 00:28:15,360 they give you a description everything 787 00:28:17,350 --> 00:28:16,000 what happened 788 00:28:19,350 --> 00:28:17,360 how it happened how big it what it 789 00:28:20,870 --> 00:28:19,360 looked like blah blah blah but they 790 00:28:22,710 --> 00:28:20,880 never get to that point where 791 00:28:24,950 --> 00:28:22,720 they actually had the camera in their 792 00:28:26,549 --> 00:28:24,960 hands and picked it up and used it 793 00:28:29,590 --> 00:28:26,559 and if they did they were shaking so bad 794 00:28:33,590 --> 00:28:29,600 all you gots one big blurry green 795 00:28:36,870 --> 00:28:33,600 field yeah i hear it all the time man 796 00:28:40,630 --> 00:28:36,880 yep hear it all the time 797 00:28:42,470 --> 00:28:40,640 you know you know people get on facebook 798 00:28:45,269 --> 00:28:42,480 or send me 799 00:28:47,110 --> 00:28:45,279 emails well when are we gonna see a 800 00:28:49,750 --> 00:28:47,120 picture when are we gonna see a video 801 00:28:55,269 --> 00:28:49,760 well get out there and take one it 802 00:29:00,870 --> 00:28:58,630 it just doesn't work that way i wish it 803 00:29:03,430 --> 00:29:00,880 did yeah anyway 804 00:29:05,590 --> 00:29:03,440 but it just doesn't work that way and 805 00:29:07,269 --> 00:29:05,600 i'm not saying that for a lazy excuse of 806 00:29:10,830 --> 00:29:07,279 not having any evidence 807 00:29:13,029 --> 00:29:10,840 i'm just saying put yourself in that 808 00:29:14,710 --> 00:29:13,039 position 809 00:29:16,549 --> 00:29:14,720 and just think about it seriously not 810 00:29:18,389 --> 00:29:16,559 even be you know trying to be super [\h__\h] 811 00:29:19,990 --> 00:29:18,399 out there just think about it you know 812 00:29:22,070 --> 00:29:20,000 put yourself in that position in the 813 00:29:24,389 --> 00:29:22,080 minute in the moment 814 00:29:26,549 --> 00:29:24,399 and think about your ability to be able 815 00:29:27,990 --> 00:29:26,559 to do what you're asking somebody to do 816 00:29:29,190 --> 00:29:28,000 i just don't know if it's possible 817 00:29:31,110 --> 00:29:29,200 because i don't think our brains are 818 00:29:34,549 --> 00:29:31,120 wired that way 819 00:29:39,029 --> 00:29:36,789 well well i got here's one of my 820 00:29:40,789 --> 00:29:39,039 favorites so that was a ruby creek 821 00:29:43,190 --> 00:29:40,799 oh ruby creek go ahead story time with 822 00:29:48,630 --> 00:29:46,389 uh jeannie chapman was startled one 823 00:29:50,630 --> 00:29:48,640 afternoon in september of 1941 824 00:29:52,070 --> 00:29:50,640 when her young son came home terrified 825 00:29:53,430 --> 00:29:52,080 claiming to have seen a cow 826 00:29:56,630 --> 00:29:53,440 coming out of the woods next to the 827 00:29:58,470 --> 00:29:56,640 house perplexed as to why a cow 828 00:30:00,149 --> 00:29:58,480 would have her child so scared jeannie 829 00:30:02,870 --> 00:30:00,159 walked out onto the porch 830 00:30:03,750 --> 00:30:02,880 where she saw a very large dark shaped 831 00:30:05,909 --> 00:30:03,760 figure moving 832 00:30:07,190 --> 00:30:05,919 through the woods and the underbrush 833 00:30:09,669 --> 00:30:07,200 thinking it was a bear 834 00:30:11,269 --> 00:30:09,679 she called the other two children inside 835 00:30:13,190 --> 00:30:11,279 but after realizing 836 00:30:15,029 --> 00:30:13,200 it had been spotted the creature raised 837 00:30:16,870 --> 00:30:15,039 up on its full height 838 00:30:18,230 --> 00:30:16,880 on two legs and stared straight ahead at 839 00:30:20,230 --> 00:30:18,240 the shock family 840 00:30:22,149 --> 00:30:20,240 jeannie realized that this was no bear 841 00:30:23,830 --> 00:30:22,159 instead she described it as a giant man 842 00:30:26,950 --> 00:30:23,840 covered in dark brown hair 843 00:30:27,830 --> 00:30:26,960 the yuji beast became began to head 844 00:30:30,710 --> 00:30:27,840 toward 845 00:30:31,909 --> 00:30:30,720 the home and jeannie grabbed the kids 846 00:30:33,669 --> 00:30:31,919 and they took off 847 00:30:36,149 --> 00:30:33,679 down the road to the nearby town where 848 00:30:37,590 --> 00:30:36,159 she took some refuge with friends 849 00:30:39,830 --> 00:30:37,600 there she exclaimed that her husband 850 00:30:41,669 --> 00:30:39,840 george would soon arrive home from work 851 00:30:44,149 --> 00:30:41,679 and the creature may be waiting for him 852 00:30:47,510 --> 00:30:44,159 luckily by the time george did get home 853 00:30:47,909 --> 00:30:47,520 the bigfoot was gone but his home had 854 00:30:50,870 --> 00:30:47,919 been 855 00:30:53,110 --> 00:30:50,880 destroyed the front door was smashed in 856 00:30:54,710 --> 00:30:53,120 a 55-gallon drum of dried fish had been 857 00:30:55,990 --> 00:30:54,720 smashed open and most of its contents 858 00:30:57,830 --> 00:30:56,000 were eaten 859 00:30:59,430 --> 00:30:57,840 after reuniting with his family george 860 00:31:00,070 --> 00:30:59,440 gathered a group of men with guns and 861 00:31:02,549 --> 00:31:00,080 dogs 862 00:31:04,230 --> 00:31:02,559 to wait in his house the next night to 863 00:31:05,990 --> 00:31:04,240 see if the creature would return 864 00:31:07,990 --> 00:31:06,000 and while at one point in the night the 865 00:31:09,190 --> 00:31:08,000 dogs went berserk nobody ever spotted 866 00:31:11,029 --> 00:31:09,200 the creature 867 00:31:13,190 --> 00:31:11,039 only its huge footprints in the dirt the 868 00:31:14,549 --> 00:31:13,200 next morning the chapman's no longer 869 00:31:15,990 --> 00:31:14,559 feeling safe in their own home moved 870 00:31:17,029 --> 00:31:16,000 away from ruby creek the following 871 00:31:19,590 --> 00:31:17,039 summer 872 00:31:21,269 --> 00:31:19,600 but this is not where the story ends 873 00:31:21,750 --> 00:31:21,279 some native american traditions state 874 00:31:24,710 --> 00:31:21,760 that 875 00:31:26,870 --> 00:31:24,720 to see a bigfoot is a bad omen and those 876 00:31:28,630 --> 00:31:26,880 who encounter one will die soon 877 00:31:30,549 --> 00:31:28,640 the chapman's youngest daughter died of 878 00:31:32,950 --> 00:31:30,559 an illness just the following year 879 00:31:35,110 --> 00:31:32,960 and their two sons as well as genie and 880 00:31:36,230 --> 00:31:35,120 george were all drowned when their canoe 881 00:31:38,549 --> 00:31:36,240 capsized 882 00:31:40,549 --> 00:31:38,559 in the river every member of the chapman 883 00:31:44,950 --> 00:31:40,559 family was dead just three years after 884 00:31:49,750 --> 00:31:46,870 [\h__\h] i saw a bigfoot i hope to god 885 00:31:55,350 --> 00:31:51,830 that's been 30 years ago though so i 886 00:31:59,430 --> 00:31:58,950 you're up lon well you know i'm gonna 887 00:32:03,029 --> 00:31:59,440 read 888 00:32:06,389 --> 00:32:03,039 by some of the uh 889 00:32:09,870 --> 00:32:06,399 the listeners uh here's an account 890 00:32:13,029 --> 00:32:09,880 by gentleman named blaine he said in may 891 00:32:15,430 --> 00:32:13,039 2016 i hiked the seldom used park trail 892 00:32:18,389 --> 00:32:15,440 in ottawa valley region 893 00:32:18,789 --> 00:32:18,399 around 9 00 a.m about midway i came 894 00:32:21,909 --> 00:32:18,799 across 895 00:32:23,669 --> 00:32:21,919 a small five foot arch of a young tree 896 00:32:26,230 --> 00:32:23,679 that bent over the trail 897 00:32:27,830 --> 00:32:26,240 the tree was only an inch or so thick 898 00:32:29,830 --> 00:32:27,840 and could have been naturally occurring 899 00:32:31,509 --> 00:32:29,840 i took a couple picks walked on the arch 900 00:32:35,990 --> 00:32:31,519 without disturbing it 901 00:32:38,789 --> 00:32:36,000 and continued on the height continued on 902 00:32:41,269 --> 00:32:38,799 to its end point a small resting spot 903 00:32:43,830 --> 00:32:41,279 with a picnic table and fire pit 904 00:32:45,909 --> 00:32:43,840 at that point i rested a bit took off my 905 00:32:47,110 --> 00:32:45,919 gopro because of the killer headache i 906 00:32:52,230 --> 00:32:47,120 had 907 00:32:55,269 --> 00:32:52,240 and uh i said it was an uneventful hike 908 00:32:56,710 --> 00:32:55,279 or a nice spring day which was reward 909 00:32:59,830 --> 00:32:56,720 enough so on the way 910 00:33:01,909 --> 00:32:59,840 back i had to pass the arch again 911 00:33:04,710 --> 00:33:01,919 however this time i decided to move a 912 00:33:07,029 --> 00:33:04,720 small branch instead of ducking under it 913 00:33:09,430 --> 00:33:07,039 within five steps from the arch out of 914 00:33:13,590 --> 00:33:09,440 nowhere extremely loud and very 915 00:33:14,789 --> 00:33:13,600 close a tree bash occurred right behind 916 00:33:17,990 --> 00:33:14,799 my head 917 00:33:19,830 --> 00:33:18,000 at the tree on my right only four foot 918 00:33:21,830 --> 00:33:19,840 away 919 00:33:22,870 --> 00:33:21,840 it was so close that i felt parts of the 920 00:33:26,230 --> 00:33:22,880 tree or 921 00:33:28,549 --> 00:33:26,240 branch are kidding me 922 00:33:29,269 --> 00:33:28,559 anyways i froze waiting and thinking of 923 00:33:32,470 --> 00:33:29,279 what to do 924 00:33:33,669 --> 00:33:32,480 since i had no weapon uh not even bear 925 00:33:36,389 --> 00:33:33,679 spray because 926 00:33:39,190 --> 00:33:36,399 because i was in a park i never had a 927 00:33:41,669 --> 00:33:39,200 sasquatch do this to me before 928 00:33:43,909 --> 00:33:41,679 seconds pass which seemed like hours 929 00:33:47,110 --> 00:33:43,919 until i finally walked ahead 930 00:33:48,950 --> 00:33:47,120 15 foot into a clearing on the trail the 931 00:33:52,789 --> 00:33:48,960 bigfoot was right on my 932 00:33:53,269 --> 00:33:52,799 uh right on me so i broke a tiny branch 933 00:33:56,070 --> 00:33:53,279 off 934 00:33:57,110 --> 00:33:56,080 a nearby tree and did a very soft wood 935 00:33:59,750 --> 00:33:57,120 knock 936 00:34:02,789 --> 00:33:59,760 hoping it would realize i was not there 937 00:34:05,190 --> 00:34:02,799 to harm them or compete for territory 938 00:34:05,990 --> 00:34:05,200 at this point i did try to get some 939 00:34:08,869 --> 00:34:06,000 footage with my 940 00:34:09,750 --> 00:34:08,879 cam but just turning it on around in my 941 00:34:12,950 --> 00:34:09,760 hand 942 00:34:15,190 --> 00:34:12,960 however my safety was the key concern so 943 00:34:18,550 --> 00:34:15,200 i had to settle with whatever i got 944 00:34:19,430 --> 00:34:18,560 during those few shots anyways a soft 945 00:34:21,510 --> 00:34:19,440 wood tap 946 00:34:22,629 --> 00:34:21,520 seemed to work so i continued on heading 947 00:34:24,629 --> 00:34:22,639 out of the park 948 00:34:26,069 --> 00:34:24,639 after 10 minutes of hiking i came to an 949 00:34:28,550 --> 00:34:26,079 s turn in the trail 950 00:34:30,550 --> 00:34:28,560 that was close to the parking lot after 951 00:34:33,829 --> 00:34:30,560 the s turn the trail opened up while 952 00:34:36,149 --> 00:34:33,839 passing the lake during the last 100 953 00:34:38,470 --> 00:34:36,159 meters of the hike however the s turn 954 00:34:39,990 --> 00:34:38,480 was a choke point and sure enough my 955 00:34:42,629 --> 00:34:40,000 luck ran out 956 00:34:43,589 --> 00:34:42,639 i could hear them i could hear then 957 00:34:45,669 --> 00:34:43,599 smell 958 00:34:47,669 --> 00:34:45,679 the bigfoot come up to my right and was 959 00:34:50,950 --> 00:34:47,679 within 10 foot of me 960 00:34:51,349 --> 00:34:50,960 as part of 10 feet at the first part of 961 00:34:54,310 --> 00:34:51,359 the s 962 00:34:55,909 --> 00:34:54,320 turn at this point i could think of 963 00:34:58,069 --> 00:34:55,919 nothing else i could do 964 00:35:00,150 --> 00:34:58,079 since it was not satisfied with 965 00:35:02,790 --> 00:35:00,160 escorting me out and leaving 966 00:35:05,430 --> 00:35:02,800 so when i when it got too close at the 967 00:35:08,069 --> 00:35:05,440 final turn i just reached my snapping 968 00:35:09,990 --> 00:35:08,079 by snapping my head right and snarling 969 00:35:12,230 --> 00:35:10,000 back over my shoulder at it 970 00:35:13,910 --> 00:35:12,240 either that worked or got scared off by 971 00:35:16,950 --> 00:35:13,920 the clearing ahead 972 00:35:18,069 --> 00:35:16,960 but i made it back to the parking lot so 973 00:35:20,710 --> 00:35:18,079 i've experienced 974 00:35:22,710 --> 00:35:20,720 uh rocks throwing vocalization stumps 975 00:35:25,510 --> 00:35:22,720 and super loud wood knocks 976 00:35:26,310 --> 00:35:25,520 and being softly bumped into it must 977 00:35:28,390 --> 00:35:26,320 have known 978 00:35:29,910 --> 00:35:28,400 smashing the branch that hard and so 979 00:35:30,710 --> 00:35:29,920 close to my head that branch would 980 00:35:33,750 --> 00:35:30,720 shatter 981 00:35:35,829 --> 00:35:33,760 and parts of it would hit me uh anyways 982 00:35:39,030 --> 00:35:35,839 all i could see on the footage 983 00:35:42,710 --> 00:35:39,040 is a stationary gray-haired six foot 984 00:35:44,870 --> 00:35:42,720 bent over pipette figure uh hiding 985 00:35:46,950 --> 00:35:44,880 behind a tree 986 00:35:48,230 --> 00:35:46,960 but you can make out the arm because of 987 00:35:51,030 --> 00:35:48,240 the bend at the elbow 988 00:35:52,710 --> 00:35:51,040 and part of the lower leg i still put 989 00:35:56,150 --> 00:35:52,720 together a video on the 990 00:36:00,550 --> 00:35:56,160 on this but in this case narration 991 00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:06,390 so that's it that's pretty damn close 992 00:36:11,510 --> 00:36:09,589 that's it that's enough yeah that was 993 00:36:11,990 --> 00:36:11,520 pretty close and i was up in ontario 994 00:36:18,710 --> 00:36:12,000 that's 995 00:36:20,930 --> 00:36:18,720 uh we got another here from tom 996 00:36:25,030 --> 00:36:20,940 here in pa 997 00:36:29,589 --> 00:36:27,589 15 years ago while spring turkey hunting 998 00:36:31,109 --> 00:36:29,599 in southwest pennsylvania 999 00:36:32,710 --> 00:36:31,119 i went into the woods around three 1000 00:36:34,230 --> 00:36:32,720 o'clock 3 30 1001 00:36:36,150 --> 00:36:34,240 in the morning so that i could be 1002 00:36:38,150 --> 00:36:36,160 situated by 4 a.m 1003 00:36:40,470 --> 00:36:38,160 without the use of a flashlight i slowly 1004 00:36:41,430 --> 00:36:40,480 climbed the long hill when i reached the 1005 00:36:44,150 --> 00:36:41,440 top 1006 00:36:44,470 --> 00:36:44,160 i continued on for 25 yards and turned 1007 00:36:47,910 --> 00:36:44,480 around 1008 00:36:49,829 --> 00:36:47,920 facing direction which i had came i sat 1009 00:36:51,750 --> 00:36:49,839 down at the base of large stream within 1010 00:36:53,270 --> 00:36:51,760 five seconds something let out a huge 1011 00:36:56,230 --> 00:36:53,280 scream 1012 00:36:56,790 --> 00:36:56,240 it was only in it was only about 80 to 1013 00:36:59,430 --> 00:36:56,800 100 1014 00:37:00,150 --> 00:36:59,440 foot away and coming directly from where 1015 00:37:03,670 --> 00:37:00,160 i had just 1016 00:37:05,670 --> 00:37:03,680 walked through 30 seconds ago 1017 00:37:07,270 --> 00:37:05,680 apparently i had walked right past it 1018 00:37:09,589 --> 00:37:07,280 and it had followed me 1019 00:37:11,510 --> 00:37:09,599 it had been following me this first 1020 00:37:12,069 --> 00:37:11,520 scream sounded somewhat like a mountain 1021 00:37:14,710 --> 00:37:12,079 lion or 1022 00:37:15,990 --> 00:37:14,720 leopard war and my first thought was 1023 00:37:18,230 --> 00:37:16,000 mountain lion 1024 00:37:19,589 --> 00:37:18,240 it let out another scream that sounded 1025 00:37:22,630 --> 00:37:19,599 less cat-like 1026 00:37:24,710 --> 00:37:22,640 but still had a little of that tone 1027 00:37:25,670 --> 00:37:24,720 after that scream it began to let out on 1028 00:37:28,790 --> 00:37:25,680 her 1029 00:37:30,630 --> 00:37:28,800 let out horrific screams uh but a 1030 00:37:34,310 --> 00:37:30,640 totally new very mad 1031 00:37:36,150 --> 00:37:34,320 mean sound and this was continuously for 1032 00:37:38,550 --> 00:37:36,160 about 10 minutes 1033 00:37:39,829 --> 00:37:38,560 uh these roars were earth shattering and 1034 00:37:43,190 --> 00:37:39,839 it was apparent 1035 00:37:46,230 --> 00:37:43,200 it was getting very angry very agitated 1036 00:37:47,990 --> 00:37:46,240 uh because i wasn't running off 1037 00:37:50,630 --> 00:37:48,000 it was also very very apparent that the 1038 00:37:53,510 --> 00:37:50,640 screams were being directed at me 1039 00:37:57,109 --> 00:37:53,520 my car was straight back beyond it so i 1040 00:37:59,829 --> 00:37:57,119 sure wasn't headed in that direction 1041 00:38:01,589 --> 00:37:59,839 i could hear walking around while it was 1042 00:38:03,430 --> 00:38:01,599 doing the screaming and it was also 1043 00:38:04,790 --> 00:38:03,440 either picking up large limbs and 1044 00:38:07,750 --> 00:38:04,800 breaking them or 1045 00:38:10,310 --> 00:38:07,760 breaking large live tree limbs the 1046 00:38:10,870 --> 00:38:10,320 screams and roars were loud enough that 1047 00:38:29,510 --> 00:38:10,880 i 1048 00:38:32,230 --> 00:38:29,520 see the end of the barrel and my fear 1049 00:38:33,990 --> 00:38:32,240 was if this thing attacked the only i 1050 00:38:35,670 --> 00:38:34,000 was only going to be able to fire at 1051 00:38:37,750 --> 00:38:35,680 point-blank range 1052 00:38:39,990 --> 00:38:37,760 the safety was all my fingers on the 1053 00:38:43,109 --> 00:38:40,000 trigger the encounter continued 1054 00:38:46,069 --> 00:38:43,119 without interruption for over 10 minutes 1055 00:38:48,150 --> 00:38:46,079 and then everything went silent at that 1056 00:38:50,550 --> 00:38:48,160 point i thought it might be sneaking in 1057 00:38:53,510 --> 00:38:50,560 behind me as i heard a twig snap 1058 00:38:55,670 --> 00:38:53,520 about 50 foot behind me after that i 1059 00:38:57,589 --> 00:38:55,680 heard not a sound 1060 00:39:00,630 --> 00:38:57,599 all animals and forests were totally 1061 00:39:03,589 --> 00:39:00,640 quiet not even a bird chirp 1062 00:39:05,990 --> 00:39:03,599 even after it got daylight after got 1063 00:39:09,190 --> 00:39:06,000 daylight i started back for my car 1064 00:39:11,109 --> 00:39:09,200 with a gun at the ready but saw nothing 1065 00:39:13,750 --> 00:39:11,119 it was a couple of years before i went 1066 00:39:16,630 --> 00:39:13,760 back to that location to look around 1067 00:39:18,470 --> 00:39:16,640 at that spot it took place i found 1068 00:39:20,230 --> 00:39:18,480 several young saplings 1069 00:39:22,390 --> 00:39:20,240 that were snapped off about shoulder 1070 00:39:24,950 --> 00:39:22,400 high they were about the size of my 1071 00:39:26,950 --> 00:39:24,960 wrist and upper forearm 1072 00:39:28,950 --> 00:39:26,960 it was not much it was not much 1073 00:39:29,589 --> 00:39:28,960 interested with any bigfoot stuff back 1074 00:39:31,589 --> 00:39:29,599 then 1075 00:39:34,310 --> 00:39:31,599 and really had no idea what i was up 1076 00:39:35,750 --> 00:39:34,320 against i've hunted for over 45 years 1077 00:39:37,910 --> 00:39:35,760 and have traveled to nine countries 1078 00:39:41,030 --> 00:39:37,920 pursuing my lovely outdoors 1079 00:39:43,990 --> 00:39:41,040 hunting fishing hiking etc i've been 1080 00:39:44,310 --> 00:39:44,000 bluff charged by bears in alaska and i 1081 00:39:46,950 --> 00:39:44,320 have 1082 00:39:48,470 --> 00:39:46,960 other scary events but this by far was 1083 00:39:50,069 --> 00:39:48,480 the most intense 1084 00:39:52,069 --> 00:39:50,079 it was after i ruled out everything 1085 00:39:53,190 --> 00:39:52,079 natural normal in pennsylvania that 1086 00:39:56,710 --> 00:39:53,200 things start 1087 00:39:58,230 --> 00:39:56,720 to make sense sort of uh 1088 00:40:00,630 --> 00:39:58,240 butch and i heard this story before 1089 00:40:08,829 --> 00:40:00,640 because we know the guy it happened to 1090 00:40:14,710 --> 00:40:11,190 yes 1091 00:40:17,750 --> 00:40:17,030 yeah i mean he's very knowledgeable very 1092 00:40:19,829 --> 00:40:17,760 forthright 1093 00:40:23,190 --> 00:40:19,839 knows the outdoors i mean he's he's a 1094 00:40:29,670 --> 00:40:26,390 so um anybody got anything else 1095 00:40:33,430 --> 00:40:29,680 oh yeah hey butch 1096 00:40:37,270 --> 00:40:33,440 love it hello the floor county massacre 1097 00:40:39,750 --> 00:40:37,280 oh my god hunabi oklahoma 1098 00:40:41,910 --> 00:40:39,760 yep oklahoma seems to be a hotbed of 1099 00:40:44,950 --> 00:40:41,920 violent human bigfoot encounters as can 1100 00:40:47,109 --> 00:40:44,960 be seen with this historical account 1101 00:40:49,030 --> 00:40:47,119 the choctaw native american tribe had 1102 00:40:50,870 --> 00:40:49,040 long known a bigfoot 1103 00:40:52,550 --> 00:40:50,880 they worshipped them in their legends 1104 00:40:53,589 --> 00:40:52,560 and had lived alongside of them for many 1105 00:40:55,109 --> 00:40:53,599 years 1106 00:40:56,630 --> 00:40:55,119 so they were not concerned when they 1107 00:40:57,829 --> 00:40:56,640 would occasionally steal supplies from 1108 00:41:00,550 --> 00:40:57,839 their camps 1109 00:41:03,030 --> 00:41:00,560 however when a child went missing in the 1110 00:41:05,430 --> 00:41:03,040 dead of the night in 1855 1111 00:41:07,109 --> 00:41:05,440 followed by another then more the 1112 00:41:09,829 --> 00:41:07,119 choctaw knew 1113 00:41:11,430 --> 00:41:09,839 that action needed to be taken their 1114 00:41:12,950 --> 00:41:11,440 weapons were not powerful enough to 1115 00:41:14,309 --> 00:41:12,960 handle the creatures 1116 00:41:16,630 --> 00:41:14,319 so they sought out help from other 1117 00:41:18,790 --> 00:41:16,640 settlers in the area this was a time 1118 00:41:20,230 --> 00:41:18,800 when relations between the settlers 1119 00:41:22,870 --> 00:41:20,240 and the natives was anything but 1120 00:41:25,190 --> 00:41:22,880 amicable and they were laughed off by 1121 00:41:28,470 --> 00:41:25,200 many for their silly superstitions 1122 00:41:31,030 --> 00:41:28,480 but there was one man who listened 1123 00:41:32,309 --> 00:41:31,040 army cavalry captain joshua lafleur who 1124 00:41:34,230 --> 00:41:32,319 was part cherokee 1125 00:41:35,349 --> 00:41:34,240 and was respectful of the native beliefs 1126 00:41:37,510 --> 00:41:35,359 besides 1127 00:41:40,309 --> 00:41:37,520 if they were willing to ask for help 1128 00:41:44,470 --> 00:41:40,319 then he knew there must be a good reason 1129 00:41:46,710 --> 00:41:44,480 lefour organized a party of natives 1130 00:41:47,670 --> 00:41:46,720 and settlers all armed with rifles 1131 00:41:50,390 --> 00:41:47,680 designed to bring 1132 00:41:51,990 --> 00:41:50,400 down buffalo and they headed out to find 1133 00:41:53,430 --> 00:41:52,000 the child steelers 1134 00:41:55,270 --> 00:41:53,440 the group hacked their way through the 1135 00:41:57,190 --> 00:41:55,280 unforgivable oklahoma wilderness for 1136 00:41:59,190 --> 00:41:57,200 days until they eventually came across a 1137 00:42:02,069 --> 00:41:59,200 gigantic round of dirt 1138 00:42:04,230 --> 00:42:02,079 littered with what were the gnawed bones 1139 00:42:06,150 --> 00:42:04,240 of children inside 1140 00:42:07,910 --> 00:42:06,160 as the men tried to process the horrific 1141 00:42:09,750 --> 00:42:07,920 scene 1142 00:42:12,950 --> 00:42:09,760 four of the creatures charged from the 1143 00:42:15,430 --> 00:42:12,960 forest area into the ambush 1144 00:42:17,030 --> 00:42:15,440 carnage ensued with the result being 1145 00:42:17,829 --> 00:42:17,040 many of the men including the floor 1146 00:42:20,870 --> 00:42:17,839 lying dead 1147 00:42:23,990 --> 00:42:20,880 as well as for sasquatch 1148 00:42:26,150 --> 00:42:24,000 the remaining indian native warriors 1149 00:42:27,990 --> 00:42:26,160 gave all the dead a warriors burial and 1150 00:42:28,870 --> 00:42:28,000 burned the bodies of the dead bigfoot to 1151 00:42:31,990 --> 00:42:28,880 ash 1152 00:42:33,349 --> 00:42:32,000 as a show of vengeance the story may 1153 00:42:35,750 --> 00:42:33,359 seem fanciful 1154 00:42:38,470 --> 00:42:35,760 but military records do show a captain 1155 00:42:41,190 --> 00:42:38,480 joshua lafleur of choctaw heritage 1156 00:42:43,990 --> 00:42:41,200 was in service in that area from 1830 1157 00:42:46,550 --> 00:42:44,000 until his death in 1855 1158 00:42:47,589 --> 00:42:46,560 his death is listed as happening in 1805 1159 00:42:50,390 --> 00:42:47,599 in military records 1160 00:42:52,390 --> 00:42:50,400 in oklahoma indian territory and native 1161 00:42:57,270 --> 00:42:52,400 americans have long held and told 1162 00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:02,069 that's it i'm going to bed 1163 00:43:07,589 --> 00:43:04,630 you said look you know and it was lafor 1164 00:43:09,990 --> 00:43:07,599 you said right laflore 1165 00:43:11,670 --> 00:43:10,000 which is actually the name of the county 1166 00:43:14,950 --> 00:43:11,680 in oklahoma 1167 00:43:18,390 --> 00:43:14,960 or the folks that experience 1168 00:43:19,430 --> 00:43:18,400 the traumatic events of the hanubi 1169 00:43:21,829 --> 00:43:19,440 bigfoot and county you know what i'm 1170 00:43:27,990 --> 00:43:21,839 talking about the family farm 1171 00:43:32,790 --> 00:43:31,109 bigfoot bigfoots uh 1172 00:43:34,230 --> 00:43:32,800 over an extended period of time trying 1173 00:43:36,230 --> 00:43:34,240 to break into the freezer break into 1174 00:43:37,829 --> 00:43:36,240 their home 1175 00:43:39,349 --> 00:43:37,839 they actually i think culminated at 1176 00:43:41,829 --> 00:43:39,359 shooting at one 1177 00:43:42,630 --> 00:43:41,839 and the activity if you ever watch the 1178 00:43:47,190 --> 00:43:42,640 you ever watch 1179 00:43:53,109 --> 00:43:50,790 is about leflore county and 1180 00:43:55,670 --> 00:43:53,119 oklahoma and you know you don't think of 1181 00:43:57,270 --> 00:43:55,680 oklahoma often as a place where 1182 00:44:00,550 --> 00:43:57,280 there's a lot of bigfoot activity but i 1183 00:44:03,829 --> 00:44:00,560 tell you what that place is popping 1184 00:44:04,470 --> 00:44:03,839 oh yeah a lot of reports jerk yeah the 1185 00:44:07,670 --> 00:44:04,480 cherokee 1186 00:44:08,550 --> 00:44:07,680 choctaw assad jabel they've all got 1187 00:44:11,430 --> 00:44:08,560 tradition 1188 00:44:12,550 --> 00:44:11,440 of uh you know having bigfoot encounters 1189 00:44:15,910 --> 00:44:12,560 out there 1190 00:44:16,950 --> 00:44:15,920 and uh you know we had a we actually had 1191 00:44:20,309 --> 00:44:16,960 that uh 1192 00:44:22,309 --> 00:44:20,319 dog upright canine sliding out there a 1193 00:44:24,150 --> 00:44:22,319 couple weeks ago yeah 1194 00:44:25,430 --> 00:44:24,160 so yeah there's a lot going on out in 1195 00:44:27,910 --> 00:44:25,440 oklahoma believe me i 1196 00:44:29,349 --> 00:44:27,920 you know it's yeah you when you talk 1197 00:44:31,510 --> 00:44:29,359 bigfoot you don't really think of 1198 00:44:36,150 --> 00:44:31,520 oklahoma they've had a lot of sightings 1199 00:44:38,470 --> 00:44:36,160 a lot of encounters out there 1200 00:44:40,630 --> 00:44:38,480 lon we got these books called witnessing 1201 00:44:42,390 --> 00:44:40,640 bigfoot 1202 00:44:43,670 --> 00:44:42,400 i sent you a copy butch i don't know if 1203 00:44:45,589 --> 00:44:43,680 you got a copy or not i'll have to try 1204 00:44:48,470 --> 00:44:45,599 to get you off a copy 1205 00:44:49,349 --> 00:44:48,480 oh it's called witnessing bigfoot uh but 1206 00:44:52,630 --> 00:44:49,359 by glenn 1207 00:44:54,069 --> 00:44:52,640 what's his last name bullier yeah 1208 00:44:55,589 --> 00:44:54,079 something like that flesh and blood 1209 00:44:57,109 --> 00:44:55,599 native american legend of the devil 1210 00:44:58,630 --> 00:44:57,119 himself and i'm getting ready to dive 1211 00:45:00,790 --> 00:44:58,640 into this book because i think we want 1212 00:45:03,510 --> 00:45:00,800 to do a show on this here very soon 1213 00:45:05,910 --> 00:45:03,520 see if we can get him on the program 1214 00:45:10,069 --> 00:45:05,920 he's from prince edward island 1215 00:45:14,470 --> 00:45:10,079 uh and he's got 1216 00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:20,630 449 pages guys 1217 00:45:25,109 --> 00:45:23,510 yet so maybe i need to get maybe we can 1218 00:45:27,190 --> 00:45:25,119 get him on here and 1219 00:45:28,950 --> 00:45:27,200 maybe tell us some first-hand accounts 1220 00:45:30,550 --> 00:45:28,960 yeah i mean folks there's all kinds of 1221 00:45:32,870 --> 00:45:30,560 bigfoot stories out there 1222 00:45:33,670 --> 00:45:32,880 uh that make your skin crawl make your 1223 00:45:36,870 --> 00:45:33,680 skin pain 1224 00:45:38,230 --> 00:45:36,880 uh give you the goosebumps and 1225 00:45:39,589 --> 00:45:38,240 you know we tell you these stories 1226 00:45:41,109 --> 00:45:39,599 because they're well they're just great 1227 00:45:42,790 --> 00:45:41,119 bedtime stories and we wanted to show 1228 00:45:44,230 --> 00:45:42,800 those a little bit more fun than usual 1229 00:45:48,069 --> 00:45:44,240 but 1230 00:45:49,670 --> 00:45:48,079 you know these sightings happen and 1231 00:45:51,829 --> 00:45:49,680 to the folks that experience them 1232 00:45:53,349 --> 00:45:51,839 they're life-changing events 1233 00:45:55,030 --> 00:45:53,359 that's why you know we kind of provide 1234 00:45:56,470 --> 00:45:55,040 an outlet for folks that do experience 1235 00:45:57,910 --> 00:45:56,480 these things to come to us and tell us 1236 00:45:59,270 --> 00:45:57,920 so we can investigate give them a little 1237 00:46:01,670 --> 00:45:59,280 help little solos and what they seem 1238 00:46:04,309 --> 00:46:01,680 they're not crazy 1239 00:46:09,750 --> 00:46:04,319 but damn sometimes they're just 1240 00:46:13,510 --> 00:46:11,430 i've gotten a lot of them in the past i 1241 00:46:15,109 --> 00:46:13,520 mean you know some of you 1242 00:46:17,109 --> 00:46:15,119 i don't know i can't believe that maybe 1243 00:46:19,349 --> 00:46:17,119 did you know a lot of historical 1244 00:46:22,950 --> 00:46:19,359 accounts of uh 1245 00:46:26,710 --> 00:46:22,960 of these texts by um 1246 00:46:29,750 --> 00:46:26,720 uh by groups of bigfoot in fact 1247 00:46:32,470 --> 00:46:29,760 uh you know we were talking you know 1248 00:46:35,030 --> 00:46:32,480 there was a big thing about that uh 1249 00:46:37,750 --> 00:46:35,040 about the seal team i went in 1250 00:46:39,589 --> 00:46:37,760 down in uh down into the mountains of 1251 00:46:41,670 --> 00:46:39,599 north carolina 1252 00:46:44,230 --> 00:46:41,680 and killed off a whole big group of 1253 00:46:47,270 --> 00:46:44,240 these marauding bigfoot 1254 00:46:49,910 --> 00:46:47,280 but there have been other uh there have 1255 00:46:51,990 --> 00:46:49,920 been other instances as well i mean 1256 00:46:53,349 --> 00:46:52,000 there was that valley up in the yukon 1257 00:46:56,710 --> 00:46:53,359 territory 1258 00:46:58,150 --> 00:46:56,720 where all these miners were losing their 1259 00:47:00,069 --> 00:46:58,160 heads because these bigfoot 1260 00:47:01,829 --> 00:47:00,079 apparently bigfoot were attacking them 1261 00:47:06,150 --> 00:47:01,839 and ripping their heads off 1262 00:47:08,390 --> 00:47:06,160 uh they called it the headless valley um 1263 00:47:10,150 --> 00:47:08,400 you know how much of that was conjecture 1264 00:47:11,190 --> 00:47:10,160 but there were some people that it that 1265 00:47:13,349 --> 00:47:11,200 were 1266 00:47:15,349 --> 00:47:13,359 decapitated and killed so i don't know 1267 00:47:18,069 --> 00:47:15,359 how many of them were there 1268 00:47:19,670 --> 00:47:18,079 uh and you've heard there's been other 1269 00:47:22,230 --> 00:47:19,680 stories as well 1270 00:47:23,670 --> 00:47:22,240 so you know uh it's it's not something 1271 00:47:26,790 --> 00:47:23,680 that 1272 00:47:29,349 --> 00:47:26,800 you know not all of them are made up 1273 00:47:31,589 --> 00:47:29,359 you know most legends or something are 1274 00:47:34,950 --> 00:47:31,599 based on some type of truth 1275 00:47:35,510 --> 00:47:34,960 but uh you know i don't put it past it 1276 00:47:38,230 --> 00:47:35,520 you know i 1277 00:47:38,710 --> 00:47:38,240 i you know every you know you read these 1278 00:47:42,069 --> 00:47:38,720 uh 1279 00:47:44,710 --> 00:47:42,079 stories that that david pilates has been 1280 00:47:46,950 --> 00:47:44,720 putting out a story but reports 1281 00:47:49,349 --> 00:47:46,960 uh people going missing in these state 1282 00:47:53,190 --> 00:47:49,359 forests the state parks and 1283 00:47:56,309 --> 00:47:53,200 federal land and such and uh 1284 00:47:59,829 --> 00:47:56,319 you know i i know he does 1285 00:48:02,230 --> 00:47:59,839 say this off hand i mean that being 1286 00:48:04,150 --> 00:48:02,240 bigfoot but you know i i really do 1287 00:48:07,750 --> 00:48:04,160 believe that 1288 00:48:09,670 --> 00:48:07,760 a bigfoot mayor may easily have been 1289 00:48:11,349 --> 00:48:09,680 responsible for some of those 1290 00:48:13,750 --> 00:48:11,359 disappearances 1291 00:48:15,430 --> 00:48:13,760 so um you know i'm just going to put it 1292 00:48:17,270 --> 00:48:15,440 out there well without saying more than 1293 00:48:18,829 --> 00:48:17,280 what we should say about it you and i 1294 00:48:21,670 --> 00:48:18,839 have had a conversation 1295 00:48:24,870 --> 00:48:21,680 offline with uh 1296 00:48:27,670 --> 00:48:24,880 the author about his thoughts on that 1297 00:48:29,750 --> 00:48:27,680 and though he won't publicly say yay i 1298 00:48:32,710 --> 00:48:29,760 think we're along the same lines of what 1299 00:48:33,190 --> 00:48:32,720 he feels and that itself is telling him 1300 00:48:34,630 --> 00:48:33,200 look i 1301 00:48:35,990 --> 00:48:34,640 i i feel that way you know that's a 1302 00:48:37,910 --> 00:48:36,000 question i get whenever i'm doing a 1303 00:48:38,549 --> 00:48:37,920 presentation or i'm talking to somebody 1304 00:48:41,190 --> 00:48:38,559 is 1305 00:48:42,150 --> 00:48:41,200 has bigfoot ever hurt somebody well hell 1306 00:48:44,150 --> 00:48:42,160 we don't know 1307 00:48:45,270 --> 00:48:44,160 you know what i mean like if they're 1308 00:48:48,630 --> 00:48:45,280 killing them they're not sure 1309 00:48:53,030 --> 00:48:48,640 coming back to tell us about it 1310 00:48:56,630 --> 00:48:55,270 i mean we have heard stories of these 1311 00:48:59,430 --> 00:48:56,640 things actually 1312 00:49:02,870 --> 00:48:59,440 helping people too so definitely i guess 1313 00:49:05,430 --> 00:49:02,880 it works both ways i mean you know tom 1314 00:49:08,390 --> 00:49:05,440 locals is full of it he's got a great 1315 00:49:10,950 --> 00:49:08,400 story about rocky how the guy was uh 1316 00:49:12,710 --> 00:49:10,960 carried back to the foot of the trail 1317 00:49:14,390 --> 00:49:12,720 that he hurt himself and 1318 00:49:16,150 --> 00:49:14,400 he was placed there so somebody would 1319 00:49:19,270 --> 00:49:16,160 see him and 1320 00:49:21,349 --> 00:49:19,280 i'm not saying every encounter is uh 1321 00:49:23,109 --> 00:49:21,359 a bad encounter but folks let's be clear 1322 00:49:25,190 --> 00:49:23,119 not every encounter is harry and the 1323 00:49:28,710 --> 00:49:25,200 freaking hendersons either 1324 00:49:30,870 --> 00:49:28,720 yeah yeah yeah i 1325 00:49:32,790 --> 00:49:30,880 you know you heard a lot of details and 1326 00:49:36,390 --> 00:49:32,800 a lot of stories i have to 1327 00:49:39,270 --> 00:49:36,400 and uh you know they 1328 00:49:39,829 --> 00:49:39,280 they're certain you know in fact i got a 1329 00:49:43,030 --> 00:49:39,839 story 1330 00:49:44,390 --> 00:49:43,040 years and years ago from a woman down in 1331 00:49:47,589 --> 00:49:44,400 um 1332 00:49:52,950 --> 00:49:47,599 in florida and this has to has 1333 00:49:59,750 --> 00:49:57,190 back then this was 2000 was 2003. 1334 00:50:01,270 --> 00:49:59,760 so you know she said she lived down in 1335 00:50:03,670 --> 00:50:01,280 florida and 1336 00:50:04,710 --> 00:50:03,680 you know all and although they've 1337 00:50:07,030 --> 00:50:04,720 traveled a bit 1338 00:50:08,230 --> 00:50:07,040 they always felt like that was home you 1339 00:50:09,910 --> 00:50:08,240 know yeah 1340 00:50:12,150 --> 00:50:09,920 they're originally from new york city 1341 00:50:15,030 --> 00:50:12,160 but uh they lived 1342 00:50:16,390 --> 00:50:15,040 down there in florida for quite a while 1343 00:50:18,150 --> 00:50:16,400 in fact 1344 00:50:19,589 --> 00:50:18,160 in the summer they used to go down a lot 1345 00:50:21,510 --> 00:50:19,599 then they eventually lived down there 1346 00:50:24,950 --> 00:50:21,520 and they had a trailer 1347 00:50:27,750 --> 00:50:24,960 and they also had horse pasture and such 1348 00:50:30,069 --> 00:50:27,760 uh there was a campground and now this 1349 00:50:31,190 --> 00:50:30,079 is mayaka so this is down in sarasota 1350 00:50:35,829 --> 00:50:31,200 county this is a 1351 00:50:39,750 --> 00:50:35,839 this is an area very well known for 1352 00:50:42,069 --> 00:50:39,760 for skunky babes um i said 1353 00:50:44,150 --> 00:50:42,079 uh my aca was just across the side of 1354 00:50:45,910 --> 00:50:44,160 the side of the pasture 1355 00:50:47,349 --> 00:50:45,920 and they had made friends with people 1356 00:50:49,190 --> 00:50:47,359 who ran it so it was 1357 00:50:51,270 --> 00:50:49,200 late summer and a bunch of the campers 1358 00:50:53,109 --> 00:50:51,280 had got together 1359 00:50:55,750 --> 00:50:53,119 because they'd be leaving soon going 1360 00:50:56,790 --> 00:50:55,760 back home so a bonfire was being held 1361 00:50:58,390 --> 00:50:56,800 that evening 1362 00:51:01,190 --> 00:50:58,400 so there was a trail that led into the 1363 00:51:02,950 --> 00:51:01,200 campground from where the trailer was 1364 00:51:05,270 --> 00:51:02,960 and everybody had gathered at our 1365 00:51:08,150 --> 00:51:05,280 trailer for a farewell barbecue 1366 00:51:08,870 --> 00:51:08,160 then moving down to the campground and 1367 00:51:12,950 --> 00:51:08,880 after 1368 00:51:15,349 --> 00:51:12,960 cleaned up the barbecue mess it was 1369 00:51:17,589 --> 00:51:15,359 getting dark so i was pretty much 1370 00:51:18,710 --> 00:51:17,599 the last one to arrive the fire was 1371 00:51:20,870 --> 00:51:18,720 started 1372 00:51:23,270 --> 00:51:20,880 and we all stood around talking it was 1373 00:51:25,270 --> 00:51:23,280 about 9 30 p.m 1374 00:51:27,349 --> 00:51:25,280 i was standing beside my friend on the 1375 00:51:29,670 --> 00:51:27,359 outside edge of the fire when i had to 1376 00:51:31,910 --> 00:51:29,680 look across at the tree line 1377 00:51:33,430 --> 00:51:31,920 there's a fence there with a low-lying 1378 00:51:35,990 --> 00:51:33,440 palm shrub 1379 00:51:37,430 --> 00:51:36,000 scrub excuse me it's divided into the 1380 00:51:39,430 --> 00:51:37,440 other half of the pasture from the 1381 00:51:41,829 --> 00:51:39,440 campground and back trails 1382 00:51:44,950 --> 00:51:41,839 as i looked in that direction i saw two 1383 00:51:47,030 --> 00:51:44,960 big red eyes staring back at me 1384 00:51:48,549 --> 00:51:47,040 the outline of this thing was pretty big 1385 00:51:49,910 --> 00:51:48,559 but the glow of the fire 1386 00:51:52,470 --> 00:51:49,920 excuse me the outline of the thing was 1387 00:51:54,630 --> 00:51:52,480 pretty big by the glow the fire light 1388 00:51:56,069 --> 00:51:54,640 the pulse scrub palm scrub was about 1389 00:51:58,549 --> 00:51:56,079 four foot high 1390 00:52:00,870 --> 00:51:58,559 higher in some spots not taking my eyes 1391 00:52:02,710 --> 00:52:00,880 off this thing i quietly whispered 1392 00:52:04,230 --> 00:52:02,720 to my friend to look in that direction 1393 00:52:07,190 --> 00:52:04,240 and don't scream 1394 00:52:09,349 --> 00:52:07,200 she did and she whispered to her husband 1395 00:52:11,030 --> 00:52:09,359 she said softly to the group not to make 1396 00:52:13,270 --> 00:52:11,040 any sudden moves we were 1397 00:52:14,950 --> 00:52:13,280 taking we were talking softly and 1398 00:52:16,309 --> 00:52:14,960 alerting everyone in the group about the 1399 00:52:18,390 --> 00:52:16,319 red eyes 1400 00:52:20,230 --> 00:52:18,400 and everybody looked and saw what we 1401 00:52:22,630 --> 00:52:20,240 were seeing 1402 00:52:24,470 --> 00:52:22,640 so there were eight of us all totaled uh 1403 00:52:27,510 --> 00:52:24,480 my girlfriend's husband returned with a 1404 00:52:29,829 --> 00:52:27,520 flashlight and a rifle and ham 1405 00:52:32,950 --> 00:52:29,839 we handed a flashlight to my friend and 1406 00:52:34,549 --> 00:52:32,960 i told her to shine it in at whatever it 1407 00:52:37,109 --> 00:52:34,559 was in the scrub 1408 00:52:38,630 --> 00:52:37,119 when she did this thing stood up and it 1409 00:52:41,750 --> 00:52:38,640 made a growling sound 1410 00:52:43,349 --> 00:52:41,760 my friend's husband then shot at it 1411 00:52:46,069 --> 00:52:43,359 and it screamed like nothing i'd ever 1412 00:52:48,710 --> 00:52:46,079 heard before it took off into the brush 1413 00:52:49,990 --> 00:52:48,720 everybody except me and a group ran to 1414 00:52:52,950 --> 00:52:50,000 get flashlights 1415 00:52:53,670 --> 00:52:52,960 and whatever to arm ourselves with my 1416 00:52:55,910 --> 00:52:53,680 friend and i 1417 00:52:57,430 --> 00:52:55,920 were told to stay by the fire about that 1418 00:52:59,990 --> 00:52:57,440 time we heard the horses 1419 00:53:01,750 --> 00:53:00,000 screaming in the pasture and they 1420 00:53:04,069 --> 00:53:01,760 hurried to the field 1421 00:53:05,829 --> 00:53:04,079 after a while they all returned they 1422 00:53:08,630 --> 00:53:05,839 could not find anything and 1423 00:53:09,349 --> 00:53:08,640 would resume the search at daylight the 1424 00:53:11,990 --> 00:53:09,359 next day 1425 00:53:13,430 --> 00:53:12,000 blood was found at the fence area and a 1426 00:53:16,230 --> 00:53:13,440 horse was dead 1427 00:53:17,750 --> 00:53:16,240 its next its neck was broken body badly 1428 00:53:20,309 --> 00:53:17,760 ripped apart 1429 00:53:21,190 --> 00:53:20,319 searches were continued for a couple 1430 00:53:23,750 --> 00:53:21,200 days 1431 00:53:25,750 --> 00:53:23,760 and no one spoke about it what happened 1432 00:53:28,470 --> 00:53:25,760 after having several things happen 1433 00:53:30,390 --> 00:53:28,480 where i was staying we left this was not 1434 00:53:32,069 --> 00:53:30,400 the only time i have encountered a large 1435 00:53:34,630 --> 00:53:32,079 red-eyed being 1436 00:53:35,750 --> 00:53:34,640 i believe this was a fact a skunky 1437 00:53:38,870 --> 00:53:35,760 bigfoot 1438 00:53:40,549 --> 00:53:38,880 uh that after being shot at at purposely 1439 00:53:42,470 --> 00:53:40,559 it killed the horse 1440 00:53:44,069 --> 00:53:42,480 i had one another occasion encountered 1441 00:53:46,150 --> 00:53:44,079 one again at night which 1442 00:53:48,150 --> 00:53:46,160 chased me through the woods while 1443 00:53:50,790 --> 00:53:48,160 walking home from my friend's house 1444 00:53:53,030 --> 00:53:50,800 i had not known at the time that a body 1445 00:53:55,030 --> 00:53:53,040 was found mutilated in that area 1446 00:53:56,470 --> 00:53:55,040 and that the arms of that poor soil were 1447 00:54:00,069 --> 00:53:56,480 torn from its body 1448 00:54:04,470 --> 00:54:00,079 i was lucky and 1449 00:54:09,829 --> 00:54:04,480 i i have heard a few other 1450 00:54:13,190 --> 00:54:09,839 instances where human bodies 1451 00:54:14,390 --> 00:54:13,200 tore up in that area i mean now 1452 00:54:16,710 --> 00:54:14,400 you know they're not gonna come right 1453 00:54:17,910 --> 00:54:16,720 out and say it was a skunk ape that did 1454 00:54:19,910 --> 00:54:17,920 it 1455 00:54:21,109 --> 00:54:19,920 but you know we've all seen the footage 1456 00:54:23,589 --> 00:54:21,119 over there mayaka 1457 00:54:25,829 --> 00:54:23,599 people we're driving down the road and 1458 00:54:28,390 --> 00:54:25,839 they see these things in the field 1459 00:54:31,109 --> 00:54:28,400 and uh uh you know there's something out 1460 00:54:33,430 --> 00:54:31,119 there there's no doubt about that 1461 00:54:35,190 --> 00:54:33,440 so this was uh and in fact this this 1462 00:54:37,589 --> 00:54:35,200 story 1463 00:54:39,109 --> 00:54:37,599 about a year or so later this woman's 1464 00:54:41,750 --> 00:54:39,119 sister 1465 00:54:43,829 --> 00:54:41,760 contacted me and told me and she 1466 00:54:46,789 --> 00:54:43,839 verified the whole thing 1467 00:54:51,190 --> 00:54:46,799 uh so something something did happen 1468 00:54:55,829 --> 00:54:53,670 mayaka area is a pretty strange place 1469 00:54:58,950 --> 00:54:55,839 those palmetto leaves themselves are 1470 00:55:02,870 --> 00:55:00,950 well you know it's it's an area that's 1471 00:55:03,510 --> 00:55:02,880 it's been active people known about it 1472 00:55:05,750 --> 00:55:03,520 for years 1473 00:55:07,270 --> 00:55:05,760 the photos that were sent to lauren 1474 00:55:09,910 --> 00:55:07,280 coleman right 1475 00:55:11,270 --> 00:55:09,920 yeah well i mean there have been some 1476 00:55:13,589 --> 00:55:11,280 videos that people 1477 00:55:15,670 --> 00:55:13,599 have it was you know i remember four or 1478 00:55:19,349 --> 00:55:15,680 five years ago 1479 00:55:21,430 --> 00:55:19,359 uh people that were going down the road 1480 00:55:22,950 --> 00:55:21,440 all stopped at this right there on the 1481 00:55:24,150 --> 00:55:22,960 side of road and we're actually taking 1482 00:55:26,470 --> 00:55:24,160 video 1483 00:55:28,870 --> 00:55:26,480 of these skunk apes running in through 1484 00:55:30,390 --> 00:55:28,880 the the uh the pasture 1485 00:55:32,829 --> 00:55:30,400 i think i remember this now that you're 1486 00:55:33,990 --> 00:55:32,839 bringing this to you're bringing this up 1487 00:55:36,549 --> 00:55:34,000 yeah 1488 00:55:37,910 --> 00:55:36,559 so uh you know there's been a lot 1489 00:55:38,870 --> 00:55:37,920 there's been a lot of people that have 1490 00:55:42,230 --> 00:55:38,880 reported on 1491 00:55:43,910 --> 00:55:42,240 having um encounters with these skunk 1492 00:55:45,910 --> 00:55:43,920 apes i mean that 1493 00:55:47,270 --> 00:55:45,920 they seem to be a little bit more 1494 00:55:50,789 --> 00:55:47,280 aggressive 1495 00:55:52,630 --> 00:55:50,799 than regular bigfoot in other locations 1496 00:55:54,309 --> 00:55:52,640 uh i think for the most part they're a 1497 00:55:56,309 --> 00:55:54,319 little bit smaller but i think they're a 1498 00:55:59,109 --> 00:55:56,319 little bit more aggressive 1499 00:56:00,630 --> 00:55:59,119 yeah definitely that's that i i mean 1500 00:56:04,549 --> 00:56:00,640 that trend appears 1501 00:56:08,710 --> 00:56:07,349 i don't know these mangy little bigfoots 1502 00:56:14,789 --> 00:56:08,720 it's what i call them the 1503 00:56:18,789 --> 00:56:16,870 well guys you're looking out of that 1504 00:56:20,069 --> 00:56:18,799 mess i guess you would be i don't know 1505 00:56:22,390 --> 00:56:20,079 they got all the things in there that 1506 00:56:26,150 --> 00:56:22,400 can kill you they can keep that [\h__\h] i'm 1507 00:56:28,950 --> 00:56:26,160 i've got no inclination 1508 00:56:30,309 --> 00:56:28,960 to go poking around down there but guys 1509 00:56:32,309 --> 00:56:30,319 we're out of time for tonight can you 1510 00:56:35,190 --> 00:56:32,319 believe that that hour went by 1511 00:56:36,710 --> 00:56:35,200 very quick real quick quicker than the 1512 00:56:37,900 --> 00:56:36,720 sausages at a forker buffet 1513 00:56:40,309 --> 00:56:37,910 let me tell you 1514 00:56:43,990 --> 00:56:40,319 [Laughter] 1515 00:56:45,109 --> 00:56:44,000 but next week we got dr ray cosmic ray 1516 00:56:47,670 --> 00:56:45,119 keller joining us back 1517 00:56:49,430 --> 00:56:47,680 talk about strange visitors in pa the 1518 00:56:52,390 --> 00:56:49,440 venusians 1519 00:56:53,990 --> 00:56:52,400 uh dr keller is a great guy very 1520 00:56:56,829 --> 00:56:54,000 personable fella 1521 00:56:58,069 --> 00:56:56,839 uh and he's got some strange stuff 1522 00:57:01,510 --> 00:56:58,079 happening 1523 00:57:04,069 --> 00:57:01,520 this is a strange story in fact 1524 00:57:05,829 --> 00:57:04,079 i encourage everybody to keep an eye on 1525 00:57:09,190 --> 00:57:05,839 the blob because 1526 00:57:12,710 --> 00:57:09,200 i got some photographs today and 1527 00:57:14,230 --> 00:57:12,720 uh i got the story on this situation 1528 00:57:17,910 --> 00:57:14,240 that occurred 1529 00:57:20,309 --> 00:57:17,920 in in pennsylvania it's pretty odd 1530 00:57:21,109 --> 00:57:20,319 um well you know i'm not gonna say 1531 00:57:23,349 --> 00:57:21,119 anything about it but 1532 00:57:25,349 --> 00:57:23,359 it it's interesting i don't know what 1533 00:57:27,670 --> 00:57:25,359 the hell actually happened but 1534 00:57:29,670 --> 00:57:27,680 reid's pretty excited about it so we're 1535 00:57:33,190 --> 00:57:29,680 going to get an exclusive on it 1536 00:57:36,230 --> 00:57:33,200 exclusive to you this coming week 1537 00:57:42,789 --> 00:57:40,549 he uh is kind of uh 1538 00:57:44,710 --> 00:57:42,799 a payback for us having him come the 1539 00:57:46,950 --> 00:57:44,720 show let him come on the show and 1540 00:57:48,309 --> 00:57:46,960 help sell his books and talk about venus 1541 00:57:49,750 --> 00:57:48,319 and such and 1542 00:57:51,589 --> 00:57:49,760 i mean they are excellent books i just 1543 00:57:52,470 --> 00:57:51,599 got the other two the other the newest 1544 00:57:53,829 --> 00:57:52,480 dude 1545 00:57:55,910 --> 00:57:53,839 the other day and they are they are 1546 00:57:58,069 --> 00:57:55,920 excellent and uh 1547 00:57:59,349 --> 00:57:58,079 he's just a nice guy he really is he is 1548 00:58:04,390 --> 00:57:59,359 breaking uh 1549 00:58:08,870 --> 00:58:06,549 we'll ask him and see what he has to say 1550 00:58:11,510 --> 00:58:08,880 about these uh 1551 00:58:13,109 --> 00:58:11,520 these individuals who showed up at this 1552 00:58:15,190 --> 00:58:13,119 lecture 1553 00:58:16,870 --> 00:58:15,200 and uh we'll see what he has 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